** Ray K. wrote -


> I'll second the note on watch that bill from Peggi Rodgers. It's about
> 2.5 inches ling, dagger-shaped, and used very well by the bird as a
> weapon. Looking at the bird bill straight on with those two blood-red
> eyes, one gets a new perspective on the grebe.

Having rescued both Common Loons and Western Grebes and felt the stab of both beaks,
I would have to say that the greatest raw thrusting power goes to the loon. However,
the grebes bill is thinner and has a better edge so can inflict a better spearing
action.

- Jack



Jack Bowling
Prince George, BC
jcbowling at mindlink.bc.ca