Subject: Re: red-whiskered bulbuls, pileated woodpeckers, coffee
Date: Feb 4 15:57:48 1997
From: Eagan Family - eaganc at brigadoon.com


>Tweets:
>
> There are bulbuls in Hawai'i (at least on O'ahu), but I can't
>recall if they are red-whiskered or something else, and i don't have the
>right books with me to look it up. They are quite a recent introduction
>(they weren't listed in my dated copy of Peterson but are in the newer
>Audubon Hawaiian Birds book) and like most introductions to the islands,
>seem to be having a negative impact on native birds (i'm told). They
>seemed rather common around the Honolulu area.
> One location of pileated woodpecker(s) that I don't think has been
>mentioned is Schmitz Park; I haven't personally seen them, but three
>other birders have told me about seeing one there. I think i've been told
>they are sometimes seen in Linclon Park, too, although I'm not sure about
>this.
>
>Christine Maack wrote:
>
>I think there is a distinction between shade grown and organically grown.
>Don't let those importers off with claims of "organic," because as far as
>I can tell, that just means no commercial fertilizer or pesticides were
>used and doesn't tell you anything about the trees on the coffee
>plantations. The trees are the habitat whose loss is affecting bird
>populations as more and more growers switch to "sun coffee."
>
>
> As far as I understand, Christine is correct. I searched in vain
>at PCC for coffee that said anything about shade or sun among the several
>kinds of "organic" coffees. (I didn't track down a clerk to ask, though.)
>If anyone knows of a place to buy shade-grown coffee I would appreciate
>hearing about it.
>
>Paul Talbert
>paul at sparky.fhcrc.org

Are we only concerned about coffee grown in Central and South
America? A lot of coffee is grown in Africa too, as well as other parts of
the world. What are their growing methods? Personally, I'm an ovalteen
fan.


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Seattle