Just one more idea: check out "Hawks in Flight" by Dunne, Sibley et
al. Basic premise of the book is: forget the plumage, it's too
unpredictable to use to positively ID raptors.. Tells you things to
look for in shape, size, flight patterns, etc. Really a helpful book.

Sue Ericksen wrote:
>
> >
> >With a dark-phase Swainson's Hawk the white patch below the beak should stand
> >out in sharp contrast to the breast. I don't know about the rust on the
> >carpals.
> >
> >That's about all I'm good for. The description does sound like a strong
> >possibility for a pair of Swainson's Hawks.
>
> Hi Kelly,
>
> My first sighting was close in our own elm tree. When Pa Kestrel started
> hounding him he turned and was facing my kitchen window. All I saw was solid
> black. I've been trying to spot a white throat patch, but so far sightings
> have been further away.
>
> We keep trying.
>
> Sue
> Zillah
>
> >
> >
> >

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