------ =_NextPart_000_01BCB8F4.6F82B7E0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Is Tegenaria highly toxic, mildly toxic, non-toxic? One of my kids was =
poking at one with his finger. I let out a yell as any good arachnophobe =
would.=20

----------
From: James West[SMTP:jdwest at u.washington.edu]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 1997 2:55 AM
To: Tweeters
Subject: Spiders - those big brown ones...


Yvonne asked for some reading on those big hairy spiders that live under
our decks, most often, but come into the house a lot... They're =
Tegenaria
gigantea, an introduced European species that's common near seaports in
Western US. Because most of the American spider literature is still,
irritatingly, overwhelmingly based on Eastern species, you won't find =
much
on it in Gertsch's "American Spiders", or B. J. Kaston's "The Spiders", =
or
J. H. Emerton's "The Common Spiders of the United States". But you'll =
find
the family described, and the native US Tegenaria domestica that isn't =
as
impressive, and W. S. Bristowe's "The World Of Spiders" in the "New
Naturalist" series is based on British and European spiders. Gertsch and
Bristowe are readable and very well illustrated, and will tell you much
more than you wanted to know about the spiders you find in your garden,
basement... and bath-tub!

And if your curiosity extends beyond Tegenaria, and you have an =
unfinished
basement, look for Steatoda and its rather amazing webs... They look =
just
like Black Widows, but without the red hour-glass (and no, they're =
nowhere
near as toxic).

James West


------ =_NextPart_000_01BCB8F4.6F82B7E0
Content-Type: application/ms-tnef
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
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------ =_NextPart_000_01BCB8F4.6F82B7E0--