Subject: Kansas action
Date: Aug 11 19:32:13 1999
From: Richard D. Spencer - merdave at televar.com


Neither evolution nor creationism can ever be proved or disproved by
biological and/or geological science. That is, unless an experiment lasting
for lifetimes would be funded by someone (virus mutation isn't all that
convining - after all, they're still a virus).

Each time this subject is debated the two sides pull out their arsenal of
evidence and assumptions. Science - 0; Ego/Emotionalism/Dogma - 1.

Wouldn't it be more rational to present both view points to students?
Wouldn't that teach them a more important lesson? But that would require a
teacher who actually has a passion for scientific process.

If one is determined to discount the theory of evolution, I am convinced
that the best way to do this is by proving a young solar system. At the
moment I am way too busy trying to make a living and trying to follow the
Golden Rule to embark on such an heroic adventure ( or insane folly,
depending on your point of view).

I am a Christian. If you think that makes me irrational or weak in my
understanding of the Bible, then there's not much else to say but God bless
you

Dave Spencer

merdave at televar.com
spencers at orchids-nw.com
http://orchids-nw.com/spencersgreenhouse/


----- Original Message -----
From: ian paulsen <ipaulsen at linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us>
To: Robert Cleland <cleland at u.washington.edu>
Cc: Tweeters <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: Kansas action


> HI Robert and tweeters:
> Robert's assumption that kid's today know that dinosaurs and humans
> DIDN'T occur together is flawed. I had a biology teacher in HIGH SCHOOL
> who TAUGHT OUR class that this was TRUE! He was,and still is teaching
> this! As you can guess he is a creationist and NEVER TAUGHT us anything
> about evolution. What I learned about evolution prior to College, I had to
> learn from outside sources. Also in a recent survey a good number of
> ADULTS thought that Dinosaurs/Human existed at the same time (30% I
> believe was the figure).
> So by voting this way I think the Kansas School board is doing a great
> disservice to the education of the children of Kansas!
> I expect 2 things to happen in Kansas:
> 1) Only creationists-biology teachers will take jobs with the Kansas
> schools.
> 2) Don't expect any biology majors from the Kansas Public School System
> any time soon!
> I hope someone will challenge this vote!
>
> Sincerely
> Ian "Birdbooker" Paulsen
> Bainbridge Is., WA, USA
> ipaulsen at linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us
> "Rallidae all the way"
>
>
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