From: Susi and Dale <susidale at home.com>
To: <srothboeck at hotmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 8:26 PM
Subject: Re: Expulsion of Don Baccus


> If I were a bit wiser I wouldn't jump into this new thread .... I've seen
it
> before on other lists ... the dreaded censorship thread. but I shall give
> my 2 cent's worth .. well at least 1 cent's worth. I applaud and
appreciate
> Dan's effort to make the list more pleasant for all. Dan runs the list,
and
> probably spends a lot of time doing so, and should be able to set certain
> ground rules. If he warned Don, and Don refused to respect the rules,
what
> choice did Dan have? As for censorship, I haven't seen that. Excluding
> people who will not honor the rules is NOT censorship. It would have been
> censorship if Dan reviewed the messages going out and changed or deleted
> them. That didn't happen. Don's messages went through untouched
regardless
> of how rude they were, including an extremely vulgar message several
months
> ago.
>
> Nobody's messages are censored, no subject is forbidden, all Dan asks is
> that we be courteous to the other list members, which should be automatic.
>
> Sorry for continuing what may turn into another dreaded thread, but I wish
> to express my support for Dan's efforts. And, he did send through the
> message from Don when asked to.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: steve rothboeck <srothboeck at hotmail.com>
> To: <johns at OHSU.EDU>; <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 7:34 PM
> Subject: Re: Expulsion of Don Baccus
>
>
> > John,
> >
> > I strongly agree with your point. While Don Baccus would not have won a
> > Miss Manners award, the fact is, he is more knowledgable on birding and
> > natural resource issues in general than than the 98% of us who
contribute
> to
> > Tweeters.
> >
> > He was the only person whose "e" mail I always made a point of reading.
> He
> > helped make Tweeters an educational, colorful, and entertaining source
of
> > information. I am disappointed that he has been excluded, and I think
the
> > value of Tweeters is diminished as a result.
> >
> > I have to also say, I am also a bit surprised at the censorship that
seems
> > to exist on this site. R/Steve
> >
> >
> > >From: "John Shelton - ext. 4051" <johns at OHSU.EDU>
> > >Reply-To: johns at OHSU.EDU
> > >To: tweeters post <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
> > >Subject: Expulsion of Don Baccus
> > >Date: Tue, 24 Aug 99 16:06:00 PDT
> > >
> > > >Voltaire (1694-1778): "I disapprove of what you say, but I will
defend
> to
> > > >the death your right to say it."
> > > >
> > > >But not on Tweeters.
> > >
> > > >Did Voltaire die a "natural" death ? ..... ;- ) .....
> > > >
> > > >Toni
> > > -----------------
> > >I can't tell if you are gloating. I think Don was treated rather
> unfairly
> > >and I will miss his knowledge and his wit.
> > >
> > >John Shelton
> > >Portland, Oregon
> > >
> >
> >
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