Subject: Fw: Alder Flycatchers
Date: Jun 29 08:28:33 1999
From: Mike Patterson - mpatters at oregonvos.net



There are NO accepted records for Oregon. There have been birds
seen making 3-part calls. I was in the the record from the
Wallowa Fish Hatchery. We saw and heard the bird. For a few
years these were accepted, but the committee threw them out on
reconsideration for exactly the same reasons Eugene Hunn mentioned
yesterday.

The Malheur birds that hang out at the P-ranch have a sneezing
"fwitz-be-oh" song that is cleanly three part unlike the
"rritz-bew" I hear in the wetland and clearcuts of the coast.

The only Alders I've ever hear are East Coast Birds and I would
describe their song as "wway-b-yoh" throaty, but not sneezy.


If you check out the Oreron Records committee site at:
http://www.cyber-dyne.com/~lb/obrc.htm

You'll discover that all Alder Flycatcher Records are in the
not accepted column.

Records not accepted--- Alder Flycatcher. Empidonax alnorum.

466.1-80-01 Wallowa Fish Hatchery, Enterprise, Wallowa Co., 1
singing on 21 June 1980.

466.1-82-02 P Ranch, Malheur N.W.R., Harney Co., 1 from 13-16 June 1982

466.1-82-03 Tiller, Douglas Co., 1 on 9 July 1982.

466.1-82-04 Tumalo SP, Deschutes Co., 1 on 2 October 1982.

466.1-83-05 1.5 miles NE of Red Bridge State Park, Union Co., 2 birds
and nest with 4 eggs . Nest and 3 eggs collected.
Nest and eggs at ODFW Regional Headquarters in
LaGrande. 4 June to 2 July 1983.

466.1-83-06 P Ranch, Malheur N.W.R., Harney Co., 1 singing on 3 & 4 June 1983.

466.1-84-07 P Ranch, Harney Co., 1 singing bird on 10 June 1984.

466.1-84-08 1.5 miles NE Red Bridge State Park, Union Co., 1 singing
bird on 16 June 1984.

466.1-84-09 P Ranch, Harney Co., 1 singing bird on 2 June 1984.

466.1-92-10 Malheur NWR, Harney Co., 1 singing bird on 5 June 1992.



WAYNE WEBER wrote:
>
> An interesting sideline to the Alder Flycatcher discussion is the
> species' status in Oregon. There are a number of records of migrant
> Alder Flycatchers from Malheur NWR and Fields in SE Oregon, and
> several records of territorial birds in NE Oregon, including a claimed
> breeding record near La Grande. At least some of these birds have been
> accepted by the Oregon Records Committee, and the bird is
> on the "official" state list. However, in "Birds of Oregon: status and
> distribution" (1994), by Gilligan et al., doubt is cast on all Oregon
> records of the species, and the authors state that "we prefer not to
> give Alder Flycatcher full standing on the Oregon list." Were NONE of
> these birds tape-recorded?? Perhaps I have stumbled onto a hornet's
> nest of dissention among Oregon birders here :-). Mike Patterson or
> others, do you have any comments?

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