>I have no problem with the Western and the Pied-bill, but I find the others
>all look kind of alike through binocs, especially when they keep diving
>just as I get 'em in focus.

Ah - now doesn't that sum up Grebe behaviour in a nutshell. How do
you know it's a grebe? By the rings in the water where you saw it
just before you raised your binoculars...

John Chapman
Seattle
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