Subject: delete warning: goose kill
Date: Jul 15 22:34:22 2002
From: Michael Dossett - phainopepla at yahoo.com


I'm going to get flamed for this, I can just feel
it....

Geese were here before (all migratory), and the
problem isn't entirely our maintained lawn habitats.
It started with the introduction from NON-MIGRATORY
populations and the fact that humans have eliminated
predators for urban geese hasn't helped either. When
you remove large predators from ecosystems, thats what
happens. With 40,000 resident geese in the Puget
Sound area and each goose pooping half its weight
every day, thats a lot of goose crap. Geese here are
a problem and Wayne's suggestion I don't see as a
viable alternative for controlling their numbers. It
merely moves them elsewhere. On the same token,
changing human affinity for lawn isn't going to happen
either, and I don't see many goose predators being
able to survive in our urban environment. Geese are a
real problem. So far euthanization is the most humane
answer I have heard.


Michael Dossett
Bothell, WA
Phainopepla at yahoo.com

--- RT Cox <birder at vcn.com> wrote:
> Here is a politically incorrect note on the Canada
> goose controversy. Is the goose the 21st century
> Starling? or English Sparrow?
>
> After digesting this thought-provoking concept....
>
> At least i have some excellent recipes for goose.
>
> On a more direct note, humans create habitat
> preferences, e.g., reservoirs, grain fields,
> irrigated meadows, golf courses, lawns, areas with
> concentrated foods, which attract desired species
> and pest species. Geese are generally regarding as
> desired until they wear out their welcome. Hazing
> does not work. Trapping does work. Turning them
> loose after trapping them does not work. Don't be
> too harsh on those who are trying to deal with an
> artificially-created habitat overcrowding problem.
>
> RT Cox
> Gillette WY
> birder at vcn.com
>


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