Hi Tweeters,

With regards to Northern Bobwhites in Wa. They are found at many
locations on Fort Lewis. I have seen females with chicks on many
occasions. Whether or not the population is self-sustaining I would say
is unknown. I witnessed many dog trials over a five year period where
crates of Bobwhites and Chuckars were released, so new birds are being
released on a constant basis. That said, Bobwhites are found in areas of
the base where no dog trials are allowed (i.e. the impact area). In my
opinion, any observation of a Bobwhite outside of Fort Lewis is probably
a recently released bird.

Russell

Wayne C. Weber wrote:

>Tweeters,
>
>Mike Patterson's remarks about Northern Bobwhites may be accurate for
>Oregon, but not necessarily for Washington.
>
>There is one area of Washington which has a self-sustaining population
>of Bobwhites-- the lowlands of Pierce and Thurston Counties. At least,
>this population was considered to be self-sustaining by Smith,
>Mattocks & Cassidy (Breeding Birds of Washington State, 1997). As far
>as I can gather, they were first released in Pierce County in 1877,
>and have been there ever since.
>
>Mike is correct in that Northern Bobwhites are frequently released
>almost everywhere in Washington and Oregon (mostly if not entirely
>illegally, these days), and could pop up almost anywhere. There were
>some large releases by game agencies prior to the 1960s. Jewett et al.
>(Birds of Washington State, 1953) give a good history of Bobwhite in
>the state up to that point. In the 1950s, they seemed to be widely
>estab
>lished east of the Cascades, but now the only remaining
>population is in the South Sound region.
>
>To get back to Mary Shane's original message, yes indeed, the bird she
>saw at Montesano is very likely to be a Northern Bobwhite, but most
>likely from a recent, local release. Jewett et al. specifically note
>a Bobwhite record from Montesano prior to 1953, but Grays Harbor
>County is not great Bobwhite habitat (too wet!), and if there ever was
>an "established" population there, it probably died out long ago.
>
>I would appreciate an update from birders in Pierce and Thurston
>Counties. Are Bobwhites still fairly common there, or are they
>declining? They certainly were not hard to find on Fort Lewis when I
>looked for them there in the mid-80s, and they seem to have still been
>widespread during the Breeding Bird Atlas years (1987-1996). Birds
>were also noted from King and Kitsap Counties during the Atlas
>project.
>
>Wayne C. Weber
>
>Kamloops and Delta, BC
>contopus at shaw.ca
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Mike Patterson <celata at pacifier.com>
>To: <rnbuffle at yahoo.com>
>Cc: <mshane at techline.com>; <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
>Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 7:40 PM
>Subject: Re: Northern Bobwhite
>
>
>>Bobwhite is a commonly reared gamebird (along with Turkeys
>>pheasants and California Quail) throughout Cascadia.
>>
>>There are no established, self-sustaining populations, yet.
>>
>>
>>--
>>Mike Patterson
>>Astoria, OR
>>celata at pacifier.com
>>
>>A child who becomes acquainted with the birds about him
>>hears every sound and puzzles out its meaning with a cleverness
>>that amazes those with ears who hear not.
>>
>> -Neltje Blanchan
>>
>>http://www.pacifier.com/~mpatters/bird/bird.html
>>
>
>

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