Okay, I have these species with new genera (I do not have any
recent refs for great tit, thus my question)

Marsh tit Poecile palustris
Coal Tit Periparus ater
Blue Tit Cyanistes caeruleus
Great Tit ????????? major

so I suspect that you can now more easily see the source of my
confusion and my inability to guess where Great tit finally
ended up after the "big split from Parus".

I had hoped that you all, dear tweeters, would be faster than
using the library (or google, but the common name "great tit"
as the search term produces all sorts of ... ah, other
information, if you catch my drift). Unfortuntely, this appears
to be tougher than I expected.

regards,

Devorah A. N. Bennu, PhD
Chapman Postdoctoral Fellow
Molecular Systematics Laboratories
Department of Ornithology
The American Museum of Natural History
Central Park West at West 79th Street
New York, NY 10024-5192
212.313.7784 (office) 212.313.6962 or 212.313.7773 (lab)
email:nyneve at amnh.org or nyneve at myUW.net
work page http://research.amnh.org/ornithology/personnel/bennu.htm
personal pages http://research.amnh.org/users/nyneve/

On Mon, 12 Jan 2004, Desilvis, Denis J wrote:

> Devorah, Dan, and Tweeters,
> All the references I checked (BTO, RSPB, and several others) have the genus listed as Parus for the European Tits (Great, Blue, Coal, Marsh, etc.
>
> May all your birds be identified,
>
> Denis DeSilvis
> Seattle, WA
> denis.j.desilvis at boeing.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan [mailto:dan at calivita.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 8:19 AM
> To: Devorah A. N. Bennu
> Cc: Tweeters
> Subject: RE: Great tit scientific name?
>
>
> Ooops. I checked my book and it was published in 2000, so maybe it's a bit out of date now. If you do find the correct answer Devorah, maybe you could drop a note to Tweeters. I would be interested in finding out what happened to the genus.
>
> Regards,
> Daniel B.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Devorah A. N. Bennu [mailto:nyneve at amnh.org]
> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 7:59 AM
> To: Dan
> Subject: RE: Great tit scientific name?
>
>
>
> REALLY? according to my sources, Parus no longer exists as a genus.
>
> hrm.
>
> Devorah A. N. Bennu, PhD
> Chapman Postdoctoral Fellow
> Molecular Systematics Laboratories
> Department of Ornithology
> The American Museum of Natural History
> Central Park West at West 79th Street
> New York, NY 10024-5192
> 212.313.7784 (office) 212.313.6962 or 212.313.7773 (lab) email:nyneve at amnh.org or nyneve at myUW.net work page http://research.amnh.org/ornithology/personnel/bennu.htm
> personal pages http://research.amnh.org/users/nyneve/
>
> On Mon, 12 Jan 2004, Dan wrote:
>
> > Hi Devorah. The latest edition of "The Complete Guide to the Birds of
> > Europe" (Mullarney, Svensson, Zetterstrom & Grant) says "Parus major".
> >
> > Regards,
> > Daniel Bastaja
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: TWEETERS-owner at u.washington.edu
> > [mailto:TWEETERS-owner at u.washington.edu]On Behalf Of Devorah A. N.
> > Bennu
> > Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 7:41 AM
> > To: tweeters at u.washington.edu
> > Subject: Great tit scientific name?
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello tweets,
> >
> > the genus Parus was split into several genera recently. okay, a couple
> > years ago. Does anyone recall the new name for the great tit, Parus
> > major?
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Devorah A. N. Bennu, PhD
> > Chapman Postdoctoral Fellow
> > Molecular Systematics Laboratories
> > Department of Ornithology
> > The American Museum of Natural History
> > Central Park West at West 79th Street
> > New York, NY 10024-5192
> > 212.313.7784 (office) 212.313.6962 or 212.313.7773 (lab)
> > email:nyneve at amnh.org or nyneve at myUW.net work page
> > http://research.amnh.org/ornithology/personnel/bennu.htm
> > personal pages http://research.amnh.org/users/nyneve/
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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