Subject: Myster bird (update 2)
Date: Jun 14 22:21:41 2004
From: Mike Patterson - celata at pacifier.com


I defer to the measurements made on the actual tree.
My measurements were made on a Clatsop County tree and
the needle count included both new growth and older
needles.

I formally recant my recantation. I'm back to bushtit.

But I stick to my claims that this cannot be a juvenile
based on flight feather wear.

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Subject: Myster bird (update 2)
From: "Bill Ferensen" <ferensen AT hotmail.com>
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 10:33:57 -0700

Mystery bird update: http://www.pbase.com/image/29984263

I need to modify earlier size estimate, based on suggestion received
from
one observer. He measured the length of recently cut Doug fir needles
and
came of with a length of 5 to 6 inches for this bird. Ah ha, out to the
back
yard I went, ruler in hand. The new growth needles adjacent to the tail
are
uniformly 3/4-inch. Using that I came up with a 5-1/2 to 6 inch length,
shorter than the 7 inch earlier estimate.

This week I?ll come back with a summary of suggestions received. Many so
far
suggest a juvenile something or other.

As I write this, Mike Patterson, stuck at home in the rain, has come up
with
6-inches plus, using Doug fir scientific methods.

Gads. Not sure I?ll ever do this again.

Bill F.

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Mike Patterson
Astoria, OR
celata at pacifier.com