Subject: [Tweeters] Re: From the CBC Regional Editor
Date: Nov 15 12:15:51 2004
From: Mike Patterson - celata at pacifier.com


This topic is currently being discussed on ID-frontiers
which you can monitor at:
http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/FRID.html

Your options regarding reporting at this point are:
Large-form Canada Goose
Small-form Canada Goose
Canada Goose (form not determined)

This will probably change to:
Canada Goose (all large forms)
Cackling Goose (all small forms)
Canada Goose complex (form undetermined)
taverneri/parvipes Goose (form undetermined)

The issues regarding taverneri/parvipes are basically what's
been holding up the split (which has been in the works for
years).

>From a regional editor's perspective, I'm not going to get really
fussy about documentation regarding taverneri/parvipes. Without
photos, I think any description is going to be so subjective as
to be useless and a lot of photos will be more problematic than
helpful. This is one of those cases where I'm just going to leave
it to the discretion of the compiler....

Guy Monty wrote:
>
> Hello Mike and Tweets,
>
> Being a compiler of three counts up here on Vancouver Island, I'm curious
> as to how you, and for that matter anyone else, will be tackling the
> "Cackling Goose" issue this season. In past years, when we were only
> encouraged to count Canada Geese as "large" or "small", it wasn't really an
> issue. But I'm wondering how the taverneri/parvipes conundrum is supposed to
> work itself out. There are plenty of references out there helping us to
> separate minima from everything else, but nobody seems to want to tackle
> taverneri/parvipes, which just happen to fall into two different species.
> I'm asking this in the context of CBC recording, but even outside of that,
> what are others doing when they encounter these birds right now?
> Many thanks,
> Guy L. Monty
> Parksville, BC
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Patterson" <celata at pacifier.com>
> To: "Tweeters" <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 10:21 AM
> Subject: [Tweeters] From the CBC Regional Editor
>
> > I have finally managed to get the 2004 CBC page up and
> > running, available at:
> > http://home.pacifier.com/~mpatters/cbc/cbc_WAOR_reg.html
> >
> > As always, there's a FAQ that lays out the expectations of
> > the regional editor regarding birds requiring details:
> > http://www.pacifier.com/~mpatters/cbc/CBC_FAQ.html
> >
> > Since the Canada Goose complex has been split by the AOU and
> > will almost certainly be split by the ABA, it's probably time
> > to start planning for all those goose flocks that will be
> > encountered. I have started a page which includes several
> > links on this subject:
> > http://home.pacifier.com/~mpatters/bird/goose_page.html
> >
> > --
> > Mike Patterson
> > Astoria, OR
> > celata at pacifier.com
> >
> > Nobody EXPECTS the Spanish Inquisition....
> > - Cardinal Ximinez
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Mike Patterson
Astoria, OR
celata at pacifier.com

Nobody EXPECTS the Spanish Inquisition....
- Cardinal Ximinez