Hi:

Geoff LeBaron of Audubon tells me the only change for the Christmas Bird
Count checklists this year is the addition of a choice for Cackling Goose.
The other categories (Canada Goose, Canada Goose (large forms) and Canada
Goose (small forms)) will remain. He agrees that next year this should be
revisited and some of the unidentified categories renamed.

Dick Cannings
Bird Studies Canada - ?tudes d'Oiseaux Canada
Christmas Bird Counts -- Recensement des Oiseaux de No?l
Naramata, BC V0H 1N0
Canada
250-496-4049
www.bsc-eoc.org

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Patterson" <celata at pacifier.com>
To: "Guy Monty" <glmonty at poecile.com>
Cc: "Tweeters" <tweeters at u.washington.edu>; "Dick Cannings"
<dickcannings at shaw.ca>; <bcbirdingvanisland at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: From the CBC Regional Editor


> This topic is currently being discussed on ID-frontiers
> which you can monitor at:
> http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/FRID.html
>
> Your options regarding reporting at this point are:
> Large-form Canada Goose
> Small-form Canada Goose
> Canada Goose (form not determined)
>
> This will probably change to:
> Canada Goose (all large forms)
> Cackling Goose (all small forms)
> Canada Goose complex (form undetermined)
> taverneri/parvipes Goose (form undetermined)
>
> The issues regarding taverneri/parvipes are basically what's
> been holding up the split (which has been in the works for
> years).
>
> From a regional editor's perspective, I'm not going to get really
> fussy about documentation regarding taverneri/parvipes. Without
> photos, I think any description is going to be so subjective as
> to be useless and a lot of photos will be more problematic than
> helpful. This is one of those cases where I'm just going to leave
> it to the discretion of the compiler....
>
> Guy Monty wrote:
>>
>> Hello Mike and Tweets,
>>
>> Being a compiler of three counts up here on Vancouver Island, I'm
>> curious
>> as to how you, and for that matter anyone else, will be tackling the
>> "Cackling Goose" issue this season. In past years, when we were only
>> encouraged to count Canada Geese as "large" or "small", it wasn't really
>> an
>> issue. But I'm wondering how the taverneri/parvipes conundrum is supposed
>> to
>> work itself out. There are plenty of references out there helping us to
>> separate minima from everything else, but nobody seems to want to tackle
>> taverneri/parvipes, which just happen to fall into two different species.
>> I'm asking this in the context of CBC recording, but even outside of
>> that,
>> what are others doing when they encounter these birds right now?
>> Many thanks,
>> Guy L. Monty
>> Parksville, BC
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mike Patterson" <celata at pacifier.com>
>> To: "Tweeters" <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
>> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 10:21 AM
>> Subject: [Tweeters] From the CBC Regional Editor
>>
>> > I have finally managed to get the 2004 CBC page up and
>> > running, available at:
>> > http://home.pacifier.com/~mpatters/cbc/cbc_WAOR_reg.html
>> >
>> > As always, there's a FAQ that lays out the expectations of
>> > the regional editor regarding birds requiring details:
>> > http://www.pacifier.com/~mpatters/cbc/CBC_FAQ.html
>> >
>> > Since the Canada Goose complex has been split by the AOU and
>> > will almost certainly be split by the ABA, it's probably time
>> > to start planning for all those goose flocks that will be
>> > encountered. I have started a page which includes several
>> > links on this subject:
>> > http://home.pacifier.com/~mpatters/bird/goose_page.html
>> >
>> > --
>> > Mike Patterson
>> > Astoria, OR
>> > celata at pacifier.com
>> >
>> > Nobody EXPECTS the Spanish Inquisition....
>> > - Cardinal Ximinez
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>> >
>
> --
> Mike Patterson
> Astoria, OR
> celata at pacifier.com
>
> Nobody EXPECTS the Spanish Inquisition....
> - Cardinal Ximinez
>