Subject: [Tweeters] Re: Othello bird report
Date: Mar 23 08:06:20 2005
From: David Henkes - d.henkes at verizon.net


I attended the Sandhill Crane Festival in Othello over the weekend and saw some amazing birds. I went with a group from the Woodland Park Zoo.

We arrived at the Scootenay reservoir on Saturday, pre-dawn, to see the sandhill cranes leave the area for the day. Rough estimates were around 1500-2000. Beautiful. We then drove around for a few hours and saw some more amazing birds. I was sitting in the back of the van peering through my binos so I could not tell you where exactly we went, I believe in the Potholes area. Some the birds spotted-California quail, harrier hawk, red-tails, kestrels, magpies, trumpeter swans and one tundra swan, yellow-headed blackbird, redheads, wigeons, coots, and our grand prize, burrowing owls along irrigation trenches just outside of Othello.

Sunday we birded with a group from the festival lead by Mike Denny. We went along the Saddle Mountain ridge and were rewarded with some great birds. Long-eared owl, great horned owl, mountain chickadee, kinglets, loggerhead shrike, long-billed curlews, prairie falcon, and a grand treat for me, a golden eagle perched high on a ridge. An amazing area to bird in, I will definitely return for more.

David Henkes
Kirkland
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1. Re: Waterville Plateau Weekend. (mike denny)
2. native plants, rain barrels (mgd at u.washington.edu)
3. Brewers Blackbirds (Helen Gilbert)
4. On the Duwamish - 03-21-2005 (Desilvis, Denis J)
5. Boreal and Snowy Owls in BC (Gary Bletsch)
6. question on Mallard (?) with greenish bill (Gary Bletsch)
7. Glaucous Gull near Sedro-Woolley (Gary Bletsch)
8. Othello area reports please (Maurie Kirschner)
9. Othello area reports please (Franny Drobny)
10. Othello area reports (Thor Manson)
11. Anyone know what's up w/the WaMu Falcons?? (MaryK)
12. RBA N Idaho / E Washington / NE Oregon 21 Mar 2005
(Dumroese Family)
13. Re: Anyone know what's up w/the WaMu Falcons?? (Ruth Taylor)
14. Can someone ID these feathers? (Marc Hoffman)
15. Emerald Downs geese (Aquila Chrysaetos)
16. Re: Anyone know what's up w/the WaMu Falcons?? (Nancy)
17. RE: Junk Birds Eating My Feeder Dry! (Kevin Mack)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:00:16 -0800
From: "mike denny" <m.denny at charter.net>
Subject: Re: [Tweeters] Waterville Plateau Weekend.
To: "Rolan Nelson" <rnbuffle at yahoo.com>, <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
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Hello All,
If you value mountain lions it is best not to give locations of sightings you have. There are many folks that are monitoring this site and they are collecting data on where lions are seen. Every sighting that is reported could mean the death of that animal. Please be very careful. Enjoy these beautiful cats and only share sightings with folks you know.
Thanks Mike

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1354 S. E. Central Ave.
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:19:38 -0800 (PST)
From: mgd at u.washington.edu
Subject: [Tweeters] native plants, rain barrels
To: Tweeters <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
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"Water, water, everywhere, but not a drop to water our plants." (With all due respect to Samuel Taylor Coleridge.)

Many birders, even if they don't consider themselves gardeners, are interested in landscaping their yards to provide habitat for birds. There are a couple of upcoming plant sales that people might want to know about.

Seattle Audubon is having a plant sale on Saturday, April 9, which would be a great place to find bird-friendly plants for your yard. The sale is from 10 a.m. until 4 p.m. at the nature shop in NE Seattle.

The Washington Native Plant Society is having their native plant sale on Saturday, May 7, at the Bellevue Botanical Garden, from 10 a.m. until 4 p.m.

With the drought this year, (yes, even though we've had a lot of rain the last 24 hours, we are still having a drought) a rain barrel is a very good investment to collect water for your plants later in the summer. (Note that even drought-tolerant plants need to be watered the first year that you plant them so they will develop a good root system.) Seattle Audubon is also selling rain barrels. They are $44.99 for members, $59.99 for non-members, and the money that is raised goes to their high school birding program. The high schoolers are assembling the barrels as orders come in, so why not order one today and pick it up when you go to their plant sale?

This message is intended to be informational, not a commercial; sorry if it seems more like the latter!

Mike Donahue
Seattle







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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:55:32 -0800
From: Helen Gilbert <helen.gilbert at juno.com>
Subject: [Tweeters] Brewers Blackbirds
To: tweeters at u.washington.edu
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Hi--

I frequently see a few Brewers Blackbirds on University Way. I noticed
seeing some soon after the Christmas Bird Count when no one at the
potluck reported seeing any.

Helen Gilbert
Seattle


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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:33:30 -0800
From: "Desilvis, Denis J" <denis.j.desilvis at boeing.com>
Subject: [Tweeters] On the Duwamish - 03-21-2005
To: <Victoria.T.Luiting at nws02.usace.army.mil>, "Berit Bergquist"
<beritb at windwardenv.com>, <tweeters at u.washington.edu>, "Woods, Roxie
J" <roxie.j.woods at boeing.com>
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12:35 start - water level med-high, with edges of some mudflats visible
(9:04 low tide - 6.6ft; 13:27 high tide - 8.6ft)
13:10 end

Chill south breeze, mostly cloudy skies, and the return of The Shadow to
Turning Basin #3. The last time I saw The Shadow (aka Hamm Creek
PEREGRINE FALCON - ) was Feb 15. When seen from above, and it's moving
fast, this falcon definitely takes on a persona I call "The Shadow."
Today, it was perched atop the west power tower when I stepped outside
at 12:35, and was alert, but in a relaxed pose (I couldn't see legs to
check for bands). At 13:06, four Rock Pigeons landed amongst the loafing
Canada geese at what remained of the mudflat along the edge of the
restoration peninsula. As I put down my bins after checking out the
pigeons, The Shadow appeared, less than a foot off the water (surface
effect at this height?), wings slightly bowed, hurtling south toward the
ROPIs. The quick dash was unrewarded, and a feint toward other pigeons
seemed half-hearted. The falcon then rose, and circled toward the south,
stirring up the pigeons on the power lines well south of TB3.

Twenty-two MEW GULLS were loafing in the shallow water directly south of
me where the large mudflat is visible when the water level is lower.
They flew up shortly after the falcon stirred up things, and landed in
the middle of TB3, where they were joined by seven more MEGUs that came
"partying" in: darting, swooping, soaring, and having what looked like
fun.

Tough call: I may have heard a Marsh Wren singing from somewhere near
the restoration area, but a sudden outburst of CAGO "honking" drowned
out the sound. I'll continue checking this week.

Birds seen during this scan include the following:
Canada Goose (18)
Gadwall (3)
Mallard (4)
Bufflehead (4)
Double-crested Cormorant (4)
Peregrine Falcon
Mew Gull (29)
Glaucous-winged Gull (13)
Rock Pigeon (51)
Belted Kingfisher
American Crow (3)
Bewick's Wren
European Starling (31)
Song Sparrow (2)
Red-winged Blackbird
House Finch

May all your birds be identified,

Denis DeSilvis
Seattle, WA
mailto:denis.j.desilvis at boeing.com


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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:08:42 -0800 (PST)
From: Gary Bletsch <garybletsch at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Tweeters] Boreal and Snowy Owls in BC
To: tweeters at u.washington.edu
Message-ID: <20050321230842.89395.qmail at web51307.mail.yahoo.com>
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Dear Tweeters,

Bob Kuntz and I enjoyed some close but fairly tricky
views of the Boreal Owl at Reifel Sanctuary on Sunday.
It was in a little cedar, closer to the phone booth,
and not in the taller cedar where it had been with the
Saw-whet. We saw two Saw-whets there (besides the
parking-lot one, there is one out in a little holly
near one of the blinds, offering very close,
unobstructed views).

We also saw a Snowy Owl out on Brunswick Point. We had
some trouble figuring out where that point is, and
even many locals that we asked were not aware of that
place name.

Here is how to reach Brunswick Point: instead of
turning right onto the wooden-decked bridge that goes
to Westham Island (where Reifel is), just keep on
straight, with the dike and Canoe Pass to your right
(to your north). At the end of the road, park and walk
the dike. Walk out to where the dike has turned and
allowed a view out to open water. The Snowy Owl was
quite close. We did not see the whiter individual that
others had reported just before we arrived.

Good birding up there!


Yours truly,

Gary Bletsch

near Lyman (Skagit County), Washington

garybletsch at yahoo.com




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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:11:21 -0800 (PST)
From: Gary Bletsch <garybletsch at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Tweeters] question on Mallard (?) with greenish bill
To: tweeters at u.washington.edu
Message-ID: <20050321231121.28548.qmail at web51302.mail.yahoo.com>
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Dear Tweeters,

At Reifel yesterday, right by the warming hut, there
were of course many Mallards. Two or three of these
birds were "different." They were in female-type
plumage, but with greenish bills, in the manner of an
American Black Duck. Otherwise they were just about
the same as the female Mallards nearby. One suggestion
I heard was that they could have been drake Mallards
that were still in eclipse plumage for some reason.
Does anyone know aught about these "green-billed
Mallards?"




Yours truly,

Gary Bletsch

near Lyman (Skagit County), Washington

garybletsch at yahoo.com




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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:22:38 -0800 (PST)
From: Gary Bletsch <garybletsch at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Tweeters] Glaucous Gull near Sedro-Woolley
To: tweeters at u.washington.edu
Message-ID: <20050321232239.67577.qmail at web51301.mail.yahoo.com>
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Dear Tweeters,

Sorry about a late post--on Saturday, I saw a Glaucous
Gull near the corner of Minkler and Hoehn Roads, east
of Sedro-Woolley (Skagit County). This gull was a dead
ringer for the one that had been seen several times
over the last few months on the Samish Flats. On
Saturday, it stayed in one place for several hours, in
a field with a single juvenile Glaucous-winged Gull.
No other gulls of any kind were around. The location
is right across Hoehn Road from where I saw a Rusty
Blackbird a few years ago, where (unfortunately) a
house is under construction. These are good fields for
gulls, crows, and blackbird-starling flocks.

The area in question can be reached by driving east
from Sedro-Woolley on SR 20, then south on Hoehn Road
(just east of a state highway maintenance garage). The
fields and ponds are good this time of year. A very
nice pond is on Burmaster Road, which heads back
westward to Sedro-Woolley from Hoehn Road.




Yours truly,

Gary Bletsch

near Lyman (Skagit County), Washington

garybletsch at yahoo.com




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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:20:26 -0800 (PST)
From: Maurie Kirschner <outdoorchickeroo at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Tweeters] Othello area reports please
To: tweeters at u.washington.edu
Message-ID: <20050322002026.68027.qmail at web53804.mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hi Tweeters,

My husband and I are planning on going over to the Othello and surrounding area this coming weekend.

I would love to hear from those of you that birded there this weekend or recently. Where did you see the cranes hanging out? Last year, somehow, we missed the cranes dispite spending quite a bit of time in the area.

Any other notable sightings, including active grouse leks, would be greatly appreciated. My husband has never seen displaying grouse and I haven't seen them since I was a little girl... it would be a nice treat.

Thanks in advance,

Maurie Kirschner
Olympia WA
outdoorchickerooatyahoo.com


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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:23:44 -0800
From: "Franny Drobny" <fdrobny at cairncross.com>
Subject: [Tweeters] Othello area reports please
To: <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
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Hi Maurie and Tweeters:



I just got back yesterday from camping 3 days in the lower Crab Creek
wilderness area outside of Othello. There were large flocks of
migrating Sandhill cranes about 12 or so miles west of Othello off Hwy.
26. Turn south on Corfu Road around late afternoon or near sunset, and
large flocks of the cranes hang out there and roost for the night. The
south end of Corfu Road runs into Lower Crab Creek Road and I saw my
very first Yellow-bellied marmot critter there (didn't realize they were
so big), up in the basalt rocks, about a mile or two down from the
intersections of those roads (on Crab CK Rd) heading west. Other birds
seen along Crab Creek Road were a Loggerhead Shrike, along with the
usual Red-winged Blackbrids, American Kestrel, RT Hawks and Western
Meadowlarks On Lenice Lake I saw Greater Scaup, Horned Grebe, Mallards,
American Coot, and Bufflehead. Also, Cliff, Violet-Green and Northern
Rough-Winged Swallows. It still seemed early to see more of the spring
migrants. Didn't see any Yellow-headed Blackbirds yet.



Franny Drobny

Seattle, Washington

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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:02:52 -0800
From: Thor Manson <tmanson at sd78.bc.ca>
Subject: [Tweeters] Othello area reports
To: <Tweeters at u.washington.edu>
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--
Tweeters: Didn't attend the Sandhill Crane Festival on the weekend, as
Jason Osterhold and I were on a marathon 48 hour road trip to see
Black-throated Blue Warbler in Portland, Falcated Teal in Coburg, and N.
Hawk Owl in Bend, ( only dip ). We came back via Othello, and saw Sandhill
Crane along Corfu Rd. in the p.m. and Tricolored Blackbird about 100 yards
north of the Para Ponds in Othello, on the right in what looked like a
feedlot operation. In the same lot were Brewer's Blackbirds, Brown-headed
Cowbirds, and Yellow-headed Blackbirds. The Red-winged Blackbirds were
around Para Ponds.

Thor Manson
Hope, B.C.



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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:11:36 -0800
From: "MaryK" <CelloBird at seanet.com>
Subject: [Tweeters] Anyone know what's up w/the WaMu Falcons??
To: "Tweeters" <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
Message-ID: <200503220311.j2M3BaUr017678 at milkyway.seanet.com>
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I've been by the bank a couple of times, no monitor. This is about the time
of year they start egg-laying isn't it, this week or next??

Mary

Mary Klein
Bremerton WA
CelloBird at seanet.com




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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:54:01 -0800
From: "Dumroese Family" <dumroese at moscow.com>
Subject: [Tweeters] RBA N Idaho / E Washington / NE Oregon 21 Mar 2005
To: "birdswest" <birdwest at listserv.arizona.edu>, "IBLE"
<ible at yahoogroups.com>, "Tweeters" <tweeters at u.washington.edu>,
"Inland" <inland-nw-birders at uidaho.edu>
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RBA

* northern Idaho / eastern Washington / northeastern Oregon
* as above
* March 21, 2005
* IDWA05.03.21

- birds mentioned

Peregrine Falcon
Northern Hawk-Owl

- transcript

hotline: northern Idaho / eastern Washington / northeastern Oregon
Date: 21 March 2005
Internet only.
Compiler: Kas.... dumroese at moscow dot com

This is the northern Idaho / eastern Washington / northeastern Oregon bird
hotline. Transcripts of this RBA and Palouse Audubon membership info are
available on-line at http://www.palouseaudubon.org

Al McNeill reports a NORTHERN HAWK-OWL in Lewiston, Nez Perce Co ID on 14
Mar. The bird was carefully observed near Lewis and Clark State College on
Normal Hill. Subsequent attempts to relocate it were unsuccessful.

Joe Corvino observed a pair of PEREGRINE FALCONS at Palouse Falls State Park
on the Franklin and Whitman Co line WA on 20 Mar. The park entrance heads
east from WA 261. WA 261 heads southeast from WA 260 between Washtucna and
Kahlotus. WA DeLorme 55, C-7.

Good birding.
Kas




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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:05:16 -0800
From: "Ruth Taylor" <rutht at seanet.com>
Subject: Re: [Tweeters] Anyone know what's up w/the WaMu Falcons??
To: "Tweeters" <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
Message-ID: <011c01c52e9c$bd463d00$7a12f204 at rutht>
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Hi All:

There is a pair downtown, and they are copulating. However, they don't
seemed to have selected a nest site yet. They are being monitored as much as
possible, given the vertical nature of downtown Seattle. There are several
scenarios, but right now it's all speculation.
We would love to hear from anyone downtown who is seeing these birds,
especially at close range.

Ruth Taylor
Coordinator, Seattle Peregrine Project
rutht at seanet.com

-----Original Message-----
From: MaryK <CelloBird at seanet.com>
To: Tweeters <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
Date: Monday, March 21, 2005 7:14 PM
Subject: [Tweeters] Anyone know what's up w/the WaMu Falcons??


>I've been by the bank a couple of times, no monitor. This is about the
time
>of year they start egg-laying isn't it, this week or next??
>
>Mary
>
>Mary Klein
>Bremerton WA
>CelloBird at seanet.com
>
>
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>Tweeters at u.washington.edu
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:58:22 -0800
From: Marc Hoffman <tweeters at dartfrogmedia.com>
Subject: [Tweeters] Can someone ID these feathers?
To: tweeters at u.washington.edu
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050321215223.00bb6080 at mail.timtyler.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

I'd like some help with feather identification. While on Whidbey Island
this weekend, I found in a field the remnant feathers of an avian battle.
I'm not sure if the feathers were from two species of birds in battle, or
were from one bird struggling with another animal (perhaps a coyote that I
saw in the same field). I'm suspect at least one of the feather types was
from a red-tail hawk.There were about six individual feathers plus a clump
of three or four bound together by skin tissue. I've posted a photo at:
http://www.dartfrogmedia.com/featherwar.jpg
and would be very interested to know what folks think: was this one or two
birds, and what species?

Many thanks.

Marc Hoffman
Kirkland, WA
tweeters at dartfrogmedia.com




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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 01:00:20 -0800
From: "Aquila Chrysaetos" <Ladyhawk707 at msn.com>
Subject: [Tweeters] Emerald Downs geese
To: "tweeters_u_washington_edu" <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
Message-ID: <BAY4-DAV320AA067856A80E5BB94A2F04E0 at phx.gbl>
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Tweeters:

I went to a field near Emerald Downs in Auburn to see if a "partial albino" Canada goose that was in that field on 3/16 was there, today. I did not find the partial albino, but spotted an Egyptian goose in a
flock of about 200 Canada geese.

Sandy
Auburn, WA
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:07:10 -0800
From: "Nancy" <nelrjb at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Tweeters] Anyone know what's up w/the WaMu Falcons??
To: "Ruth Taylor" <rutht at seanet.com>, "Tweeters"
<tweeters at u.washington.edu>
Message-ID: <006901c52ef9$344b1f40$39161218 at hsd1.wa.comcast.net>
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Tweeters,
FIY there is a pair of Peregrin Falcons on the Seatac towers, 18000 Pacific
Hwy South. (aka International Blvd). near Bow Lake. They have feasts on
Rock Pigeons and House Sparrows.
Nancy Lander

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ruth Taylor" <rutht at seanet.com>
To: "Tweeters" <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Tweeters] Anyone know what's up w/the WaMu Falcons??


> Hi All:
>
> There is a pair downtown, and they are copulating. However, they don't
> seemed to have selected a nest site yet. They are being monitored as much
as
> possible, given the vertical nature of downtown Seattle. There are several
> scenarios, but right now it's all speculation.
> We would love to hear from anyone downtown who is seeing these birds,
> especially at close range.
>
> Ruth Taylor
> Coordinator, Seattle Peregrine Project
> rutht at seanet.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MaryK <CelloBird at seanet.com>
> To: Tweeters <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
> Date: Monday, March 21, 2005 7:14 PM
> Subject: [Tweeters] Anyone know what's up w/the WaMu Falcons??
>
>
> >I've been by the bank a couple of times, no monitor. This is about the
> time
> >of year they start egg-laying isn't it, this week or next??
> >
> >Mary
> >
> >Mary Klein
> >Bremerton WA
> >CelloBird at seanet.com
> >
> >
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> >Tweeters mailing list
> >Tweeters at u.washington.edu
> >http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters
> >
>
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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:59:46 -0800
From: "Kevin Mack" <kmack at paws.org>
Subject: RE: [Tweeters] Junk Birds Eating My Feeder Dry!
To: "Rob Sandelin" <floriferous at msn.com>, "Dave Parent"
<dpdvm at whidbey.com>, "Lydia Bishop" <gizathecat at verizon.net>,
"Tweeters" <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
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