Three years ago I started making my new yard hummer and bird friendly. I now have seven (plus?) Anna's that over-winter in my yard and the surrounding woods and nearby yards. We have banded and recaptured these birds at my feeders, so we know that they over-winter. The rufus's that pass through my yard, and/or stay through-out the summer all leave by the end of September--the year-round feeders don't keep them here.
Therefore, I can categorically state from my experience (in addition to what I have read) that maintaining feeders won't keep hummers from migrating. What maintaining year-round feeders will do is give the Anna's who stay here a better chance of surviving, and give the viewers the delightful experience of seeing these little iridescent jewels during the doldrums of our gray winters.
Christine Southwick
N Seattle/ Shoreline
clsouth at u.washington.edu
On Thu, 13 Oct 2005, Chuck Reinsch wrote:
> The prevailing wisdom is that those hummers that migrate will migrate when the
> time is right, regardless of the presence of a feeder.
>
> Their primary (only?) source of protein is insects, so feeders are just easy,
> and reliable, places to go for a quick energy recharge. They seem to hit them
> real hard first thing in the morning, and at dusk before perching for the
> night.
>
> On the other hand, there has been talk of how the cultivation of exotic plants
> may have contributed to Anna's extending their range, so there may be evidence
> of human/hummer interaction changing migration patterns. And who knows what/if
> global warming will have an effect on them (although onset of migration, I
> think, is more related to hours of daylight than temperature).
>
> Last, there are Anna's that are resident here. A little over two years ago we
> started making our yard hummer friendly. We keep the feeders out (and
> regularly changed) all year, have planted a lot of natural nectar sources, and
> don't spray the bugs. As a result we have had two Anna's wintering over for
> two years. This year it looks like a third may have staked out a little piece
> of territory between the other two. They will poke their beaks through snow to
> get to the feeder ports.
>
> chuck reinsch, magnolia, seattle, wa, (creinsch at kdna.org)
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Stoner" <stonefam at gte.net>
> To: <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 8:51 AM
> Subject: [Tweeters] Re: Hummingbirds - To feed or not?
>
>
> Tweeters--
> A friend called today to ask if she should continue feeding the
> hummingbirds that still linger in her neighborhood (Lake Meridian on
> Kent's East Hill). I could think of reasons to both stop and continue
> filling the feeder. Is there any science to guide us? Any anecdotal
> information?
> Carol Stoner
> stonefam at gte.net
>
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>> 1. great horned owls (Jody Breckenridge)
>> 2. RE: Dogs (George B. Cobel)
>> 3. Re: RE: Dogs (Glenn)
>> 4. Re: RE: Dogs (Brett Wolfe)
>> 5. Re: Fall berry time (Brett Wolfe)
>> 6. High Island, TX (Valerie Elliott)
>> 7. radio telemetry volunteers (Martha Jordan)
>> 8. radio telemetry volunteering (Martha Jordan)
>> 9. Today at Kent Ponds area (Mark Vernon)
>> 10. Nanaimo bird alert (The Backyard)
>> 11. Sharp-tailed Sandpiper at Jensen Access (Fir Island, Skagit
>> Co) (Stefan Schlick)
>> 12. corvid freeways (carenp)
>> 13. accipiter eye placement (birdbooker at zipcon.net)
>> 14. poaching eagles (carenp)
>> 15. RE: Accipiter Eye Placement: (Guy L. Monty)
>> 16. Northern Wheatear Day Five: (Guy L. Monty)
>> 17. photo of Vashon Lewis' woodpecker (Ed Swan)
>> 18. Demon Ducks of Doom? (carenp)
>> 19. Westport Birding (Carol Riddell)
>> 20. Re: RE: Dogs (Glenn)
>> 21. how to unsubscribe? (Bob Bennett)
>> 22. re:Accipiter eye placement (J & B Adamowski LaComa)
>> 23. dead Cockatiel found, Cedar River - Renton, banded leg
>> (Mark Vernon)
>> 24. RE: Dogs (James Prudente)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 13:00:38 -0700
>> From: "Jody Breckenridge" <jbreckenridge at r2usa.com>
>> Subject: [Tweeters] great horned owls
>> To: "Tweeters" <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
>> Message-ID: <NEBBIICBGDMEFEMHHDGLIEJBFAAA.jbreckenridge at r2usa.com>
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>> On Saturday I had four great horned owls calling from the woods around my
>> property (two male/female pairs). To clarify, it started with the usual
>> single owl calling throughout the afternoon, who was joined by a mate by
>> late afternoon. These two have been around for a couple of seasons. By
>> dusk, another pair (male/female) began calling from further away. All four
>> continued calling for another hour or so as the darkness settled in. I
>> eventually went inside so I don't know how long it continued. Nice treat
>> though! First time I've heard four at once.
>>
>> -jody
>>
>> Jody Breckenridge, north of Monroe
>> Rural Snohomish County
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 13:21:11 -0700
>> From: "George B. Cobel" <gbcobel at comcast.net>
>> Subject: [Tweeters] RE: Dogs
>> To: <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
>> Message-ID: <PFEBLCDIIJBCKEHFNPDNEEDCCBAA.gbcobel at comcast.net>
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>> Many, many years ago when I had a bicycle paper route, I cured several
>> aggressive dogs with a squirt gun filled with one part vinegar and ten parts
>> water.
>>
>> George B. Cobel
>> GBCobel at comcast.net
>> Renton, WA
>> ****************************************
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 13:46:40 -0700
>> From: "Glenn" <glenn.hansen at usa.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Tweeters] RE: Dogs
>> To: <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
>> Message-ID: <007b01c5cea4$e8e705e0$6400a8c0 at RALPH>
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>> So the dog owner is a idiot and you are going to make the dog suffer for it.
>> Not only that before you pull the trigger on that squirt gun remember you
>> are dealing with an idiot owner and the reaction you receive when he sees
>> his dog in pain may be far worse than a wet pawed dirty shirt. Is birding so
>> important to you you feel the need to act as ignorant as the ones you
>> complain about. IOW taking the law into your own hands is usually a poor
>> approach.
>>
>> Glenn Hansen
>> glenn.hansen at usa.net
>> Tacoma, Wa
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "George B. Cobel" <gbcobel at comcast.net>
>> To: <>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 1:21 PM
>> Subject: [Tweeters] RE: Dogs
>>
>> > Many, many years ago when I had a bicycle paper route, I cured several
>> > aggressive dogs with a squirt gun filled with one part vinegar and ten
>> parts
>> > water.
>> >
>> > George B. Cobel
>> > GBCobel at comcast.net
>> > Renton, WA
>> > ****************************************
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 15:21:09 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Brett Wolfe <m_lincolnii at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Tweeters] RE: Dogs
>> To: Glenn <glenn.hansen at usa.net>, tweeters at u.washington.edu
>> Message-ID: <20051011222109.20419.qmail at web34704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
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>> Jeezus Glenn, relax. The worst that vinegar is going to do is smell bad,
>> maybe sting in the eyes a little, but it ain't gonna hurt the dog. Maybe it
>> will learn thru experience what it's idiot owner didn't teach it: don't jump
>> on every Tom, Dick & Harry out there. It is far better to try something like
>> that than pepper spray or anything like that. Birding is important enough to
>> me to keep damn dogs from jumping on me, yes. Sometimes one does have to
>> take the law into their own hands in order to protect oneself. Would you
>> rather I kick the dog? Beat the crap outta the owner? Cause a major scene?
>> Or spray a little vinegar in a dog's face and make it run back to it's idiot
>> "parents"? I think most people would prefer the latter. So far, of all the
>> posts from this thread, which I thought I would catch wholly heck for, you
>> are definitely the most shrill. Guess their are more folks looking for
>> positive solutions to this problem than we all thought.
>>
>> Brett A. Wolfe
>> Seattle, WA
>> m_lincolnii at yahoo.com
>>
>> Glenn <glenn.hansen at usa.net> wrote:
>>
>> So the dog owner is a idiot and you are going to make the dog suffer for it.
>> Not only that before you pull the trigger on that squirt gun remember you
>> are dealing with an idiot owner and the reaction you receive when he sees
>> his dog in pain may be far worse than a wet pawed dirty shirt. Is birding so
>> important to you you feel the need to act as ignorant as the ones you
>> complain about. IOW taking the law into your own hands is usually a poor
>> approach.
>>
>> Glenn Hansen
>> glenn.hansen at usa.net
>> Tacoma, Wa
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "George B. Cobel"
>> To: <>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 1:21 PM
>> Subject: [Tweeters] RE: Dogs
>>
>> > Many, many years ago when I had a bicycle paper route, I cured several
>> > aggressive dogs with a squirt gun filled with one part vinegar and ten
>> parts
>> > water.
>> >
>> > George B. Cobel
>> > GBCobel at comcast.net
>> > Renton, WA
>> > ****************************************
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 15:26:38 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Brett Wolfe <m_lincolnii at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Tweeters] Fall berry time
>> To: "Guttman, Burt" <GuttmanB at evergreen.edu>,
>> tweeters at u.washington.edu
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>> This is a good time of year to find some aberrantly colored birds. About 4
>> years ago, in a flock of some 400 robins on Capitol Hill in Seattle, I was
>> able to note two odd colored robins. One had some white on the head, in a
>> kind of streak down the center of the skull. I thought that weird until I
>> saw a 2nd bird, this one a robin with a normally colored body but an all
>> white head. It was definitely the epitome of "weird bird". It's head looked
>> ghost white, almost like bone skull, and it's eyes seemed larger due to the
>> odd coloring.
>>
>> I have also seen large flocks of waxwings and robins near Shoreline
>> Community College in the past. Very active, lots of squabbling. But wait'll
>> you hear how quiet it gets when a Cooper's Hawk flies thru!!
>>
>> Brett A. Wolfe
>> Seattle, WA
>> m_lincolnii at yahoo.com
>>
>> "Guttman, Burt" <GuttmanB at evergreen.edu> wrote:
>> We haven't quite been having a feeding frenzy here, as we did about this
>> time last year, but the Pacific Madrone and Mountain Ash berries are ripe,
>> and the woods are full of Robins and Band-tailed Pigeons feeding
>> voraciously. A pleasant time to be watching and enjoying the yard.
>>
>>
>> Burt Guttman
>> The Evergreen State College
>> Olympia, WA 98505 guttmanb at evergreen.edu
>> Home: 7334 Holmes Island Road S. E., Olympia, 98503
>>
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 15:27:43 -0700
>> From: "Valerie Elliott" <VElliott at msn.com>
>> Subject: [Tweeters] High Island, TX
>> To: "tweeters" <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
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>> Just wanted to let you know that High Island, Texas is currently closed due
>> to hurricane Rita. If you're planning a Texas trip check out the Houston
>> Audubon website for further information.
>>
>> Valerie Elliott
>> Olympia, WA.
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>> Message: 7
>> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 16:01:39 -0700
>> From: "Martha Jordan" <swanlady at drizzle.com>
>> Subject: [Tweeters] radio telemetry volunteers
>> To: "Tweeters" <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
>> Message-ID: <002301c5ceb7$beed7fe0$6401a8c0 at marthascomputer>
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>> The swans will be returning soon. As you are aware, there has been a large
>> die-off of trumpeter swans from lead shot ingestion in Whatcom County and
>> over the border in the Sumas Prairie area of B.C. For several years WDFW,
>> USFWS and Canadian Wildlife Service have been studying the issue to try and
>> find the source of the lead shot. More than 240 radio transmitter collars
>> have been put on swans in that area. This year a possible 195 could be
>> returning. We need to track them and find where they are feeding.
>>
>> This year, funding for the project is down considerably. The wildlife
>> agencies have decided to use volunteers for some of the project needs. The
>> USFWS has asked The Trumpeter Swan Society to coordinate the telemetry work
>> using volunteers. We will train you and compensation for gas will be
>> provided. The project will run from Nov. 1 through January. You can give a
>> little or a lot, we need people for any day of the week as we hope to do
>> telemetry 7 days/week.
>>
>> If you are interested and can give 1 day/week for several weeks, or several
>> days a week please contact me at marthaj at swansociety.org or 425-787-0258.
>>
>> If you know anyone who would be interested in this kind of opportunity,
>> please share this information.
>>
>> Martha Jordan
>> www.swansociety.org
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 16:12:39 -0700
>> From: "Martha Jordan" <swanlady at drizzle.com>
>> Subject: [Tweeters] radio telemetry volunteering
>> To: "Tweeters" <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
>> Message-ID: <003401c5ceba$80652b80$6401a8c0 at marthascomputer>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
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>>
>> Sorry -- the area is in Whatcom County and Sumas Prairie, B.C. for the radio
>> telemetry volunteering.
>>
>> Martha Jordan
>> www.swansociety.org
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 9
>> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 16:23:45 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Mark Vernon <ma_vern at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: [Tweeters] Today at Kent Ponds area
>> To: Tweeters at u.washington.edu
>> Message-ID: <20051011232345.56969.qmail at web30212.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> I enjoyed the nice weather today by hiking around the Kent Ponds area.
>>
>> I started at the Boeing Pond, not much action. Canada Geese and Green-winged
>> Teals were sunning themselves. An interesting shorebird was flying in
>> circles making repeated cries. It had a medium sized, straight beak and
>> curved wings but I couldn't get a good look.
>>
>> Next I walked to the Kent Ponds. A Harrier was sitting in a field quite
>> close to an observation tower. Two Cooper's Hawks were chasing Rock Doves. I
>> counted a flock of about 220 Cackling Geese....I think they were because of
>> their smaller size and funny sounding cries, to me like Canada's after
>> taking Helium. They excited many of the other birds.
>>
>> Going west I crossed the foot bridge going over the Green River. and
>> continued to the hidden pond up against the West hill. There was a lot of
>> activity here, Northern Pintails were present among the Mallards and
>> Green-winged Teals. Mixed in were shorebirds, Dowitchers I think, because of
>> their dumpy bodies and long bills. It looks like nice muck for wading. On my
>> way out of here I saw a bird I hadn't seen for a while, a Bittern standing
>> straight up, classic pose.
>>
>> Going back across the foot bridge, a River Otter passed under me,
>> underwater, hugging the bank. Then I went to the south tower of the Kent
>> Ponds and east to catch the 150 bus. It was a great walk all in all.
>>
>> -Mark Vernon
>> Renton, WA
>>
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>> Message: 10
>> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 16:24:52 -0700
>> From: The Backyard <thebackyard at shaw.ca>
>> Subject: [Tweeters] Nanaimo bird alert
>> To: tweeters <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
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>> Message: 11
>> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 22:21:38 -0400
>> From: "Stefan Schlick" <greenfant at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: [Tweeters] Sharp-tailed Sandpiper at Jensen Access (Fir
>> Island, Skagit Co)
>> To: tweeters at u.washington.edu
>> Message-ID: <BAY107-F10CEAF0468EC3C6E2AACEDA97B0 at phx.gbl>
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>> At about noon today, I ran over to Fir Island to check if I could relocate
>> the Bar-tailed Godwits and the Pacific Golden Plover that Gary Bletsch had
>> there at the Jansen Access on the 9th. Unfortunately, I could not, yet there
>> was a juvie Sharp-tailed Sandpiper mixed in with about 100 Dunlins and 20
>> Black-bellied Plovers. At the North Fork Access there was an adult Northern
>> Shrike.
>>
>> Stefan Schlick
>> Bellevue, WA
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 12
>> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 19:42:37 -0700
>> From: "carenp" <carenp at totalise.co.uk>
>> Subject: [Tweeters] corvid freeways
>> To: "tweets" <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
>> Message-ID: <JDEIKEEHFIHBHPFOLCDJEEDBHIAA.carenp at totalise.co.uk>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> something i've noticed lately, as my commute is coming more into line with
>> corvids returning to their nightly haunts: when they wander "home", they
>> seem to do so in proscribed paths, aerial rivers or roads as it were...
>>
>> today made that abundantly clear: heading south on 148th in bellevue around
>> 18:20, two rivers of crows were headed west-ish into the sunset. one was
>> doing so directly over larson lake, the other was west-bound along the north
>> side of interstate 90. both rivers contained upwards of 200 birds in
>> flotillas as small as 3-4, as large as 30-40, all following the same flight
>> plan...
>>
>> as i passed over 405 on my own westward ho, there was still one more group,
>> this time a mere creek of perhaps 40-50 crows, and these were headed
>> directly northbound into the east side of the mercer slough...
>>
>> a few weeks ago, headed northbound on 405, the river was on the east side of
>> the highway until it crossed 520, at which time it crossed the highway
>> almost dead-center with 520 and was seen for the next several miles on the
>> west side of 405 only... this river was headed southbound towards the same
>> general area of the mercer slough...
>>
>> at no time did i see any flock larger than 2 crows headed in any other
>> direction. i infer from such small bits of evidence that, perhaps, there is
>> a corvid travelodge somewhere within the slough, with at least 750 birds,
>> and probably much larger by at least an order of magnitude... can anyone
>> corroborate this?
>>
>> 00 caren
>> http://www.parkgallery.org
>>
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>> Message: 13
>> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 20:40:44 -700
>> From: birdbooker at zipcon.net
>> Subject: [Tweeters] accipiter eye placement
>> To: tweeters at u.washington.edu
>> Message-ID: <434c85bcd15492.57346701 at zipcon.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> HI:
>> I recall a useful field mark to separate Cooper's Hawk from Sharp-shinned
>> Hawk is eye placement relative to the the beak. So which one has its eyes
>> closer to its beak?
>> --
>> Ian Paulsen
>> Bainbridge Island, WA USA
>> A.K.A.:Birdbooker
>> \"Rallidae all the way!\"
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 14
>> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 21:32:03 -0700
>> From: "carenp" <carenp at totalise.co.uk>
>> Subject: [Tweeters] poaching eagles
>> To: "tweets" <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
>> Message-ID: <JDEIKEEHFIHBHPFOLCDJMEDGHIAA.carenp at totalise.co.uk>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
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>> All Things Considered, October 11, 2005 ? An apparent increase in eagle
>> poaching in the Northwest has drawn attention to the market for eagle
>> feathers and talons -- both legal and illegal.
>>
>> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4954671&ft=1&f=2
>>
>> 00 caren
>> http://www.parkgallery.org
>> from the internet near seward park
>> --
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>>
>> Message: 15
>> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 21:40:24 -0700
>> From: "Guy L. Monty" <guylmonty at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: [Tweeters] RE: Accipiter Eye Placement:
>> To: tweeters at u.washington.edu
>> Message-ID: <BAY102-F68E986FB06E1F1185FE12A97B0 at phx.gbl>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
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>> Cooper's Hawks eye's are closer to the beak than the nape. Sharp-shinned
>> Hawks eye's are more centrally placed on the face.
>>
>> Guy L. Monty
>> Parksville, BC
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 16
>> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 21:47:52 -0700
>> From: "Guy L. Monty" <guylmonty at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: [Tweeters] Northern Wheatear Day Five:
>> To: tweeters at u.washington.edu
>> Message-ID: <BAY102-F259E0FDA2B2832F4942F12A97B0 at phx.gbl>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
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>> Hi again,
>>
>> The Northern Wheatear was seen again today in the vicinity of the French
>> Creek Estuary on Vancouver Island. It was easily found in the morning, but
>> disapeared for about 4 hours in the afternoon. It was later found on the
>> French Creek Marina's breakwater, directly across French Creek from where it
>> has been seen the last five days.
>>
>> Also seen there today was a Leach's Storm Petrel flying past French Creek
>> heading south.
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> Guy L. Monty
>> Parksville, BC
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 17
>> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 21:52:46 -0700
>> From: "Ed Swan" <edswan at centurytel.net>
>> Subject: [Tweeters] photo of Vashon Lewis' woodpecker
>> To: "tweeters" <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
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>> Message: 18
>> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 22:16:08 -0700
>> From: "carenp" <carenp at totalise.co.uk>
>> Subject: [Tweeters] Demon Ducks of Doom?
>> To: "tweets" <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
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>> Australian Duck Installed at Burke
>> Thurs., October 13, 7 pm; Burke Room
>> http://www.washington.edu/burkemuseum/events/duck/
>>
>> 00 caren
>> http://www.parkgallery.org
>> from the internet near seward park
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>> Message: 19
>> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 22:19:42 -0700
>> From: Carol Riddell <cariddell at mac.com>
>> Subject: [Tweeters] Westport Birding
>> To: Tweeters <Tweeters at u.washington.edu>
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>> Hi Tweets,
>>
>> Today was a great day at Grays Harbor. Temperature around 60, sun,
>> and no wind to speak of. I got a late start so the tide was out when
>> i arrived at Bottle Beach. What few species that could be seen on
>> the water were Canada Goose, Ring-billed Gull, Western Gull, Black-
>> bellied Plover, and 18 Great Blue Herons. The flitters included
>> several Fox Sparrow, Golden-crowned Sparrow, a Savannah Sparrow,
>> Yellow-rumped Warbler (1st year), and a flock of Cedar Waxwings
>> munching away on the berries.
>>
>> Next stop was Float 21 in the Westport Marina. There were around 100
>> Brown Pelican on the breakwater, 60-70 Heermann's Gull on a float
>> near the Coast Guard station, a number of adult and juvenile Common
>> Loon, one Red-necked Grebe, several Western Grebe, all three
>> Cormorants, and a male Belted Kingfisher. About 180 godwits were
>> resting directly across from the end of Float 21. The juvenile
>> Hudsonian and juvenile Bar-tailed were well-observed among the Marbleds.
>>
>> There wasn't a lot of activity to be seen from the Point Chehalis
>> observation platform or the fishing boardwalk. More Common Loon, one
>> female Bufflehead, and both White-winged and Surf Scoter, in addition
>> to the gulls and pelicans.
>>
>> Midway Beach only had Sanderlings and one Dunlin. On the east side
>> of the Bay City Bridge (opposite Brady's Oysters) were 4 Great Egret
>> and some American Wigeon.
>>
>> Back to Bottle Beach on the higher tide to finish off the daylight
>> before heading home. Black-bellied Plovers were out in force but
>> there were also three Pacific Golden Plovers. There were lots of
>> Dunlin, one juvenile Long-billed Dowitcher, and a Willet. Ducks were
>> limited to Green-winged Teal and American Wigeon. Two Northern
>> Harriers were also present.
>>
>> I dipped on the Tropical Kingbird but at least I wasn't birding under
>> an umbrella! Glad I waited for the good weather.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Carol Riddell
>> Edmonds
>>
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>> Message: 20
>> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 08:55:44 -0700
>> From: "Glenn" <glenn.hansen at usa.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Tweeters] RE: Dogs
>> To: "Brett Wolfe" <m_lincolnii at yahoo.com>, <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
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>> Your solution is as brilliant as the behavior of the challenged dog owners
>> that we are talking about. It proves that birders and dog owners have a full
>> spectrum of personalities. Stinging eyes to me causes pain which I define as
>> cruel and hurting the dog. Maybe the dog will learn from experience or maybe
>> he will bite you due to the stinging you caused him?
>>
>>
>>
>> I never suggested you kick the dog, beat the crap out of the owner or cause
>> a major scene. I do suggest you may end up in a major scene or getting the
>> crap beat out of you or worse if you use your solution. You really think
>> spraying a dog in the eyes with anything is a solution and not the creation
>> of a whole series of problems to deal with? You actually believe the owner
>> will be taught a lesson and thank you for your efforts after he has already
>> demonstrated for you his level of respect for others?
>>
>> Sorry Brett I just don't follow your vigilante logic.
>>
>> Glenn Hansen
>> glenn.hansen at usa.net
>> Tacoma, Wa
>>
>> BTW: One of the best ways to prevent a dog from jumping up on you is to
>> bend a leg and raise your knee up near waist level. Again this can be
>> misinterpreted by a challenged dog owner as an overt aggressive act against
>> their dog child and all hell could break out. Sometimes we just have to be
>> big enough to see it is best to move on to someplace else as I will with
>> this conversation.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Brett Wolfe
>> To: Glenn ; tweeters at u.washington.edu
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 3:21 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Tweeters] RE: Dogs
>>
>> Jeezus Glenn, relax. The worst that vinegar is going to do is smell bad,
>> maybe sting in the eyes a little, but it ain't gonna hurt the dog. Maybe it
>> will learn thru experience what it's idiot owner didn't teach it: don't jump
>> on every Tom, Dick & Harry out there. It is far better to try something like
>> that than pepper spray or anything like that. Birding is important enough to
>> me to keep damn dogs from jumping on me, yes. Sometimes one does have to
>> take the law into their own hands in order to protect oneself. Would you
>> rather I kick the dog? Beat the crap outta the owner? Cause a major scene?
>> Or spray a little vinegar in a dog's face and make it run back to it's idiot
>> "parents"? I think most people would prefer the latter. So far, of all the
>> posts from this thread, which I thought I would catch wholly heck for, you
>> are definitely the most shrill. Guess their are more folks looking for
>> positive solutions to this problem than we all thought.
>>
>> Brett A. Wolfe
>> Seattle, WA
>> m_lincolnii at yahoo.com
>>
>> Glenn <glenn.hansen at usa.net> wrote:
>>
>> So the dog owner is a idiot and you are going to make the dog suffer for
>> it.
>> Not only that before you pull the trigger on that squirt gun remember
>> you
>> are dealing with an idiot owner and the reaction you receive when he
>> sees
>> his dog in pain may be far worse than a wet pawed dirty shirt. Is
>> birding so
>> important to you you feel the need to act as ignorant as the ones you
>> complain about. IOW taking the law into your own hands is usually a poor
>> approach.
>>
>> Glenn Hansen
>> glenn.hansen at usa.net
>> Tacoma, Wa
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "George B. Cobel"
>> To: <>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 1:21 PM
>> Subject: [Tweeters] RE: Dogs
>>
>> > Many, many years ago when I had a bicycle paper route, I cured several
>> > aggressive dogs with a squirt gun filled with one part vinegar and ten
>> parts
>> > water.
>> >
>> > George B. Cobel
>> > GBCobel at comcast.net
>> > Renton, WA
>> > ****************************************
>> >
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>> Message: 21
>> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 09:08:50 -0700
>> From: "Bob Bennett" <RJB at lynden.com>
>> Subject: [Tweeters] how to unsubscribe?
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