Thought that people might be interested in the following. I've heard these things, but never saw them.
Best,
Jon. Anderson
Olympia, Wash.
festuca at olywa.net

http: to //a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/01jan20051800/edocket.access.gpo.gov/2005/05-17754.htm

[Federal Register: September 7, 2005 (Volume 70, Number 172)]
[Proposed Rules] [Page 53139-53140]
>From the Federal Register Online via GPO Access [wais.access.gpo.gov]
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DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR
Fish and Wildlife Service
50 CFR Part 17

Endangered and Threatened Wildlife and Plants; Proposed Rule To Remove the Arizona Distinct Population Segment of the Cactus Ferruginous Pygmy-owl From the Federal List of Endangered and Threatened Wildlife; Proposal To Withdraw the Proposed Rule To Designate Critical Habitat

AGENCY: Fish and Wildlife Service, Interior.

ACTION: Proposed rule; notice of public hearing.
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SUMMARY: We, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (Service), announce that we will hold a public hearing (see DATES and ADDRESSES sections) on our proposed rule to remove the Arizona distinct population segment (DPS) of the cactus ferruginous pygmy-owl (Glaucidium brasilianum cactorum) (pygmy-owl) from the Federal List of Endangered and Threatened Wildlife, eliminate its currently designated critical habitat, and to withdraw its proposed new critical habitat. This public hearing will allow all interested parties an opportunity to comment on our proposed actions.

DATES: Comments must be submitted directly to the Service (see ADDRESSES) on or before October 3, 2005, or at the public hearing. Any comments received after the closing date may not be considered in the final determination on the proposal.

We will hold a public hearing on September 20, 2005, from 6:30 p.m. to 9 p.m.

ADDRESSES: Public Hearing. The public hearing will be held in Tuscon, Arizona, at the Tucson Convention Center, Apache--Greenlee meeting rooms, 260 South Church Avenue, Tuscon, AZ 85710.

Comments. If you wish to provide comments/and or information, you may submit your comments and materials by any one of several methods:
1. You may submit written comments and information by mail or hand-delivery to the Field Supervisor, Arizona Ecological Services Field Office, 2321 W. Royal Palm Road, Suite 103, Phoenix, Arizona 85021.
2. Written comments may be sent by facsimile to (602) 242-2513.
3. You may send your comments by electronic mail (e-mail) to:
cfpo_comments at fws.gov.

For directions on how to submit electronic comments, as well as information on requesting reasonable accommodations to attend the public hearing, see the ``Public Comments Solicited'' section below.

FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT: Steve Spangle, Field Supervisor, Arizona Ecological Services Field Office (telephone, 602-242-0210; facsimile, 602-242-2513; or electronic mail, steve_spangle at fws.gov).

Persons who use a telecommunications device for the deaf (TDD) may call the Federal Information Relay Service (FIRS) at 1-800-877-8339, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.