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8/27/06

Hi Guy Montey,

My interest in Spruce Grouse stems from the lone female I saw back in 1988 NE of Mount Baker, WA. I've been trying to delineate its (former) range ever since. I think where I saw various references to it was when I searched GOOGLE quite a while ago. A lot of that was from hunting literature, such as magazines.

I suspect it is or was found in rain shadow, interior-type forests, such as the border area of North cascades National Park. Anyway, judging from where I encountered mine, Mountain Hemlock forests with an understory that includes huckleberry should be added to the types of habitat where Spruce Grouse are or were found (along the upeer treeline). A similar understory was where I saw a family of Spruce Grouse in Manning Provincial Park, on a field trip in 1987.
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From: "Guy L. Monty" <guylmonty at hotmail.com>
> Hi Phil,
>
> Despite what any field guide map may show, I have never heard any
> sightings of Spruce Grouse in coastal BC south of about the Stikine River
> (56' N ?).
>
> I have quite a few books and papers on bird distribution in BC and Canada
> here, and the only one that indicates that Spruce Grouse occur near the
> coast is Godfrey's "The Birds Of Canada". This book is appallingly
> inaccurate in the ranges given for many species, the Spruce Grouse included.
>
> Hope that helps,
>
> Guy L. Monty
> Vancouver Island, BC
>
>
> >From: tweeters-request at mailman1.u.washington.edu
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> >Subject: Tweeters Digest, Vol 24, Issue 26
> >Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 12:00:05 -0700
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> >Today's Topics:
> >
> > 1. Are we birders one of a feather? (Kelly Cassidy)
> > 2. Re: Are we birders one of a feather? (Ian Paulsen)
> > 3. Columbia Co. Mountain Quail (mike denny)
> > 4. Kittiwake in Lilliwaup? (Jeni Gray)
> > 5. Re: us cheapskares (vogelfreund at comcast.net)
> > 6. Washington Birdbox Report (Nancy Hertzel)
> > 7. Re: Re: us cheapskares (Charles Reinsch)
> > 8. gray jays and clmate change/global warming effects
> > (Valerie Elliott)
> > 9. Coming Soon: Swift Nights Out! (Valerie Elliott)
> > 10. Am.Redstart at Nisqually NWR 8-24-06
> > (Ruth and/or Patrick Sullivan)
> > 11. Marymoor Park Report (Redmond, King Co., WA) 2006-08-23
> > (Michael Hobbs)
> > 12. 5th Edition of Nat'l Geo Birds (Valerie Elliott)
> > 13. Skagit Solitary Sand seen by cheap birder (Gary Bletsch)
> > 14. cheapskates (MurrayH at aol.com)
> > 15. Re: Are we birders one of a feather? (Kathy Andrich)
> > 16. Birders in the local economies (Rob Sandelin)
> > 17. Re: Are we birders one of a feather? (Ian Paulsen)
> > 18. updated Slater Museum bird wing collection (Gary Shugart)
> > 19. RBA: Portland, OR 8-24-06 (Harry Nehls)
> > 20. Nisqually NWR 8/24/06 (Scrubjay323 at aol.com)
> > 21. Massive Bird Habitat loss due to wildfire (mike denny)
> >
> >
> >----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >Message: 1
> >Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 13:42:33 -0700
> >From: "Kelly Cassidy" <lostriver at completebbs.com>
> >Subject: [Tweeters] Are we birders one of a feather?
> >To: "Tweeters" <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
> >Message-ID: <000001c6c7bd$d47fced0$fd987e40 at CASSIDY>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> >I listened to NPR's Talk of the Nation this afternoon on my drive home from
> >work. The subject of the show was tipping, featuring a waiter and waitress
> >as guests. The talk turned to stereotypes involving good vs bad tippers.
> >
> >
> >
> >The waitress told of how she had once worked on Block (?) Island in New
> >England. The area was scheduled to host some type of birding event. Her
> >fellow wait-staff persons moaned and groaned, saying that birders were
> >terrible tippers. She scoffed. Then they all showed up. Her conclusion.
> >Birders are CHEAP!!! I'm conveying her emphasis on the word. (or maybe she
> >meant CHEEP).
> >
> >
> >
> >Now, I despise the whole tipping system, but always considered myself a
> >fairly generous tipper. I had a mother who relied on tips for many years
> >when I was a youngster. Although after learning from the show that 20% is
> >now considered the standard tip, maybe I'm CHEEPER than I thought.
> >
> >
> >
> >Not meaning to start an off-topic discussion of tipping on tweeters, but
> >rather to comment on how remarkable it is that birders (if this waitress is
> >to be believed) could be so predictably categorized for a particular
> >behavior. Based on past tweeters discussions of, say, politics or religion
> >when those were allowed, the birders on tweeters seemed to be a very
> >diverse
> >group.
> >
> >
> >
> >Perhaps there is a personality type drawn to birding, independent of
> >political or religeous views, which includes the trait of thriftiness. Or
> >maybe it's because birders get into the habit of carrying sack lunches.
> >
> >
> >
> >Kelly Cassidy
> >
> >Pullman, WA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Message: 2
> >Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 14:18:02 -0700 (PDT)
> >From: Ian Paulsen <birdbooker at zipcon.net>
> >Subject: Re: [Tweeters] Are we birders one of a feather?
> >To: Kelly Cassidy <lostriver at completebbs.com>
> >Cc: Tweeters <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
> >Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58L0.0608241354320.22421 at zipcon.net>
> >Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
> >
> >HI Kelly et al:
> > NOPE, the waitpeople are right, Birders (and environmentalists in
> >general) are cheapskates! As someone who follows the publishing business
> >closely (especially natural history books) birders et al. have a
> >reputation for being cheap. Until recently publishers were wary of
> >printing bird books because they didn't sell. And if you at the market
> >today it is still dominated by a few publishers mainly Yale/Princeton (and
> >the Britsh company Helm/ACBlack) and Houghton Mifflin. How many birders
> >out in tweeterland are old enough to remember Pacific Search magazine? It
> >went belly-up and the publisher blamed it on cheap enviro-types. Also
> >independant natural history booksellers don't like to carry bird books
> >(especially used/out-of-print ones) because they don't sell. Birders go
> >on-line and look for the cheapest copies (non-natural history booksellers
> >also complain about the internet but that's another story). Gardening
> >books sell better than bird books! True we buy expensive optics (but not
> >very often) and travel but apparently we feel that being economical will
> >help the environment. I feel that the only way to beat this bad reputation
> >is to go out and spend (if you can afford to).
> >
> >--
> >
> >Ian Paulsen
> >Bainbridge Island, WA, USA
> >A.K.A.: "Birdbooker"
> >"Rallidae all the way!"
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Message: 3
> >Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:34:51 -0700
> >From: "mike denny" <m.denny at charter.net>
> >Subject: [Tweeters] Columbia Co. Mountain Quail
> >To: "tweeters" <tweeters at u.washington.edu>, "Inland NW Birders"
> > <inland-nw-birders at uidaho.edu>
> >Cc: Paul Wik <p_wik at yahoo.com>
> >Message-ID: <000301c6c7d5$e5aab810$0886bd44 at BLACKBIRD>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252";
> > reply-type=original
> >
> >Hello All,
> >Early this morning while driving back off the far south end of Biscuit
> >Ridge
> >Rd. coming from one of several fires in Columbia Co. I observed a single
> >adult Mountain Quail run down the road in front of me and then off into the
> >ditch. This is the first Mountain Quail I have ever seen in Columbia
> >County.
> >Later Mike
> >
> >********************************************************************
> >Mike & MerryLynn Denny
> >1354 S. E. Central Ave.
> >College Place, WA 99324
> >509.529.0080 (h)
> >
> >IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN BIRDING, YOU HAVEN'T LIVED!
> >*******************************************************************
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Message: 4
> >Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 19:02:55 -0700 (PDT)
> >From: Jeni Gray <jfg2020 at yahoo.com>
> >Subject: [Tweeters] Kittiwake in Lilliwaup?
> >To: tweeters at u.washington.edu
> >Message-ID: <20060825020255.99335.qmail at web35508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> >Jeni
> >Lilliwaup, WA
> > jfg2020 at yahoo.com
> >
> > Greetings,
> > On Saturday evening August 19th at 8:30PM I was driving home through
> >Lilliwaup and spotted a small flock (about 6 to 8) birds in the inlet. At
> >first they looked like small seagulls, but their movements were too fast.
> >I checked them out with my binocs and had to look them up as I'd never seen
> >them before in the 10 years I've lived here! They were "fishing", scooping
> >up tiny fish on the incoming tide. According to the Stokes birdbook I had
> >at the time, the description matched the Kittiwake.
> > Were they passing through? Has anyone else seen them before?
> > Thanks for any info! Jeni
> >
> >
> >---------------------------------
> >Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates
> >starting at 1/min.
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> >Message: 5
> >Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 02:03:40 +0000
> >From: vogelfreund at comcast.net
> >Subject: [Tweeters] Re: us cheapskares
> >To: Tweeters at u.washington.edu
> >Message-ID:
> >
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> >
> >
> >====================
> >8/24/06
> >
> >This poverty-stricken senior citizen has taken to mysteries instead of
> >lavish bird books. Mystery novels cost a lot less and provide satisfying
> >emntertainment.
> >
> >Phil Hotlen
> >Bellingham, WA
> > -------------- Original message ----------------------
> >From: Ian Paulsen <birdbooker at zipcon.net>
> > > HI Kelly et al:
> > > NOPE, the waitpeople are right, Birders (and environmentalists in
> > > general) are cheapskates! As someone who follows the publishing business
> > > closely (especially natural history books) birders et al. have a
> > > reputation for being cheap. Until recently publishers were wary of
> > > printing bird books because they didn't sell. And if you at the market
> > > today it is still dominated by a few publishers mainly Yale/Princeton
> >(and
> > > the Britsh company Helm/ACBlack) and Houghton Mifflin. How many birders
> > > out in tweeterland are old enough to remember Pacific Search magazine?
> >It
> > > went belly-up and the publisher blamed it on cheap enviro-types. Also
> > > independant natural history booksellers don't like to carry bird books
> > > (especially used/out-of-print ones) because they don't sell. Birders go
> > > on-line and look for the cheapest copies (non-natural history
> >booksellers
> > > also complain about the internet but that's another story). Gardening
> > > books sell better than bird books! True we buy expensive optics (but not
> > > very often) and travel but apparently we feel that being economical will
> > > help the environment. I feel that the only way to beat this bad
> >reputation
> > > is to go out and spend (if you can afford to).
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Ian Paulsen
> > > Bainbridge Island, WA, USA
> > > A.K.A.: "Birdbooker"
> > > "Rallidae all the way!"
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Tweeters mailing list
> > > Tweeters at u.washington.edu
> > > http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Message: 6
> >Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 19:17:21 -0700
> >From: "Nancy Hertzel" <autumn207 at comcast.net>
> >Subject: [Tweeters] Washington Birdbox Report
> >To: "'Tweeters'" <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
> >Message-ID: <001801c6c7ec$98dfc950$6401a8c0 at youro0kwkw9jwc>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> >This is the Washington Birdbox report for Thursday, August 24, 2006.
> >Birdbox is sponsored by the Washington Ornithological Society.
> >
> >
> >Sunday, August 20, 12:55 PM
> >Hi, this is Steven Mlodinow. Walked the Skagit Game Range headquarters
> >area today. On the other dike, the one accessed from the boat launch,
> >about a quarter mile down the trail, we had a NORTHERN WATERTHRUSH
> >calling loudly; came in after awhile to pishing and Screech Owl
> >imitations. After the trail gets into a situation where you can see over
> >the marsh to your left with some scattered bushes out in the marsh, we
> >had an ASH-THROATED FLYCATCHER at the top of one of the bushes. Also had
> >a BULLOCK'S ORIOLE, which was somewhat late for the west side, and a
> >CHESTNUT-BACKED CHICKADEE, a bird I see rather infrequently in this
> >area, suggesting some movement. That's it. Good luck and good birding.
> >
> >Transcribed by Nancy Hertzel
> >North Tacoma
> >Autumn207 at comcast.net
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Message: 7
> >Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 19:24:36 -0700
> >From: "Charles Reinsch" <creinsch at kdna.org>
> >Subject: Re: [Tweeters] Re: us cheapskares
> >To: <vogelfreund at comcast.net>, <Tweeters at u.washington.edu>
> >Message-ID: <000301c6c7ed$9c8f9570$6401a8c0 at computername>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> > reply-type=original
> >
> >
> > >> How many birders
> > >> out in tweeterland are old enough to remember Pacific Search magazine?
> >It
> > >> went belly-up and the publisher blamed it on cheap enviro-types.
> >
> >I have a big stack of them on the shelf directly behind me, as well as
> >Audubon from the 80's. Any offers? Thanks, but I'm not ready to sell.
> >
> >chuck reinsch, magnolia, seattle, washington, creinsch at kdna.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >Message: 8
> >Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 19:54:25 -0700
> >From: "Valerie Elliott" <VElliott at msn.com>
> >Subject: [Tweeters] gray jays and clmate change/global warming effects
> >To: "tweeters" <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
> >Message-ID: <BAY110-DAV87BA29DEF3117F737F70FD0450 at phx.gbl>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> >I thought some of you might find this article on the effects of global
> >warming and gray jays. Something we should think more about for other
> >species and climate change.
> >
> >http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L20870844.htm
> >
> >Valerie Elliott
> >Olympia, WA
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> >Message: 9
> >Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:32:33 -0700
> >From: "Valerie Elliott" <VElliott at msn.com>
> >Subject: [Tweeters] Coming Soon: Swift Nights Out!
> >To: "tweeters" <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
> >Message-ID: <BAY110-DAV73769ED6F5606450140F0D0450 at phx.gbl>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> >Even though I missed the first August date, hopefully someone can
> >participate on the September dates.
> >
> >Valerie Elliott
> >Olympia, WA.
> >
> >Subject: Coming Soon: Swift Nights Out!
> >
> >
> >Greetings!
> >
> >For the sixth year, the Driftwood Wildlife Association will be hosting "A
> >SWIFT NIGHT OUT."
> >
> >As summer draws to a close and the swifts have finished raising their
> >young, these fascinating aerial acrobats begin to congregate in communal
> >roosts prior to their migration in the fall. Some roosts may consist of an
> >extended family group of a half a dozen birds or so, but the larger sites
> >can host hundreds or even thousands of swifts! We encourage you to involve
> >your local Audubon chapters, bird clubs, scout groups and neighbors in this
> >exhilarating spectacle.
> >
> >Here is how it works: Keep your eyes to the skies at dusk and watch for
> >areas where swifts are feeding. Look for a tall shaft, chimney or similar
> >structure to locate where Chimney Swifts (central to east coast or Vaux's
> >Swift (Pacific coast) go to roost in your area.
> >
> >On one night over the weekend of August 11, 12, 13, and/or September 8, 9,
> >10 observe the roost starting about 30 minutes before dusk and estimate the
> >number of swifts that enter. When you have your number, contact us with
> >your results. That's all there is to it!
> >
> >For more information and results, please visit our web site:
> >www.chimneyswifts.org and click on the "Swift Night Out" link.
> >
> >Please pass this message along to any listserves or other groups that you
> >think might be interested.
> >
> >We look forward to hearing from you!
> >
> >Best Regards,
> >Paul and Georgean
> >
> >Paul D. and Georgean Z. Kyle
> >Driftwood Wildlife Association
> >1206 West 38th, Suite 1105
> >Austin, Texas 78705
> >
> >Visit our web site: www.chimneyswifts.org
> >
> >Thanks to our friends at Travis Audubon Society for sending out this
> >message for us. Please visit their Web site: www.travisaudubon.org
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> >Message: 10
> >Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:38:58 -0700
> >From: "Ruth and/or Patrick Sullivan" <godwit513 at msn.com>
> >Subject: [Tweeters] Am.Redstart at Nisqually NWR 8-24-06
> >To: <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
> >Message-ID: <BAY116-DAV81920690C303DCC73A931F4450 at phx.gbl>
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> >
> >Hello Tweets,
> >
> >Today we enjoyed a nice day by walking the entire "loop" trail at the
> >Nisqually NWR between 1pm-6pm. Our route began by birding the riparian area
> >between the main building to the Nisqually River,then continuing north
> >along the Nisqually River to the Nisqually Delta during incoming tide. We
> >made a final walk of the wetland areas along the McAllister Creek Trail
> >then looping our way back to the main parking lot. It was a great day
> >filled with good amounts of passerines,especially along the boardwalk to
> >the Nisqually River behind the main building. Additional passerine
> >movements were encountered further north to the Nisqually River
> >Overlook,but areas further north were quite slow.
> >
> >We and many other birders/enthusiasts today were unable to relocate the
> >Snowy Egret,despite thorough searching along McAllister Creek and it is
> >likely he bird did move on since it was feeding so actively the previous
> >days. We however would not be surprised if the bird reappeared!
> >
> >Our main highlight of the day went to an immature female AMERICAN REDSTART
> >observed well amongst a movement of 15 Warbling Vireos(including several
> >bright individuals)along the boardwalk to the Nisqually River behind the
> >main or headquarters building. The bird was viewed at 1:15pm,as an intense
> >group of Warbling Vireos worked a limited riparian area along the boardwalk
> >with the Am.Redstart feeding more in denser habitat than the other birds.
> >As the feeding activity continued much of the group of birds drifted or
> >worked to other riparian areas until the entire flock had moved on
> >completely. A group of 6 Western Wood Pewees and 2 Black-headed Grosbeaks
> >were also present at this same location,as was a single CASSIN'S VIREO. The
> >Am.Redstart was a total surprise at this particular location,as well as a
> >quality Thurston Co. species and apparently the first record for the
> >Nisqually NWR! We hadn't expected such a good variety of passerines today
> >due to the time of day,but were plea!
> > sed by what we did encounter!
> >
> >
> >As we continued northward to the Nisqually Delta we encountered slower
> >birding conditions and some scoping along the immediate shoreline was
> >possible,but heat waves made it impossible to identify most species,despite
> >the incoming tide. As we worked our way around the outer dike we located
> >the family of California Quail just north of the boardwalk along McAllister
> >Creek. We first noted the adult male watching guard along the sun-exposed
> >trail edge with the adult female and several young in thick brambles,which
> >we did not get an accurate count on. As we continued south and passing the
> >boardwalk we encountered good numbers of Western Sandpipers gathered in a
> >tight flock within the wetland area close to the trail. Further examination
> >of the drying shorebird habitat revealed additional shorebird species,as we
> >scoped from several vantage points along the trail with good lighting
> >conditions. Our return walk back to the main parking lot didn't produce
> >anything additional of note. A !
> > list of additional highlights of the day at the Nisqually NWR include the
> >following:
> >
> >1 Am.Bittern(photographed at close range at the Ring Dike Trail catching a
> >young Bull Frog)
> >5 Wood Ducks
> >15 Green-winged Teal
> >20 Northern Pintail
> >3 Gadwall
> >200+ Common Mergansers(Nisqually Delta)
> >1 Osprey
> >3 Bald Eagles
> >2 Northern Harriers
> >1 Cooper's Hawk
> >14 Virginia Rails(heard only beginning along the Primitive Trail north to
> >outer dike Trail just west of the Nisqually Delta Overlook)
> >13 Semipalmated Plovers
> >16 Greater Yellowlegs
> >1 Lesser Yellowlegs
> >475+ Western Sandpipers
> >90+ Least Sandpipers
> >4 Baird's Sandpipers(3 birds along the McAllister Creek Trail and 1 bird at
> >the Nisqually Delta)
> >2 Short-billed Dowitchers
> >3 Wilson's Snipe
> >200+ Bonaparte's Gulls(observed foraging along the current line at the
> >Nisqually Reach)
> >1 Mourning Dove
> >14+ Vaux's Swifts
> >1 Olive-sided Flycatcher
> >12 Western Wood Pewees
> >8 Willow Flycatchers(including one juvenile bird resting at very close
> >range along the sun-exposed trail north of the Nisqually River Overlook)
> >1 Pacific-slope Flycatcher
> >7 Purple Martins
> >3 Chestnut-backed Chickadees
> >3 Brown Creepers
> >4 Swainson's Thrushes
> >38 Warbling Vireos
> >17 Yellow Warblers
> >6 Black-throated Gray Warblers
> >13 Wilson's Warblers
> >10 Western Tanagers
> >1 juvenile Spotted Towhee
> >6 Purple Finches
> >
> >
> >
> >Good birding,
> >
> >Ruth and Patrick Sullivan
> >Fircrest,WA
> >godwit513 at msn.com
> >
> >
> >
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> >Message: 11
> >Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:44:02 -0700
> >From: "Michael Hobbs" <birdmarymoor at verizon.net>
> >Subject: [Tweeters] Marymoor Park Report (Redmond, King Co., WA)
> > 2006-08-23
> >To: "Tweeters \(E-mail\)" <TWEETERS at u.washington.edu>
> >Message-ID: <018301c6c7f8$b54b36e0$9b01a8c0 at McCoury>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
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> >
> >Tweets - yesterday was quiet under dark skies. Oh, for rain! It might
> >liven things up. We had hours of nothing punctuated by moments of
> >activity.
> >
> >Highlights, such as they were:
> >
> >We had one mixed flock near the south end of the Dog Area, featuring one
> >WARBLING VIREO, one BLACK-HEADED GROSBEAK, one ORANGE-CROWNED WARBLER, and
> >one WILSON'S WARBLER; we saw no more of any of those species the rest of
> >the
> >day.
> >
> >We had one mixed flock at the Rowing Club, with two YELLOW WARBLERS (one
> >adult male, one immature/female) and an immature/female BLACK-THROATED GRAY
> >WARBLER.
> >
> >Probably the same 2 juvenile COOPER'S HAWKS traveling together early in the
> >morning as last week, and again an adult Coop at the Community Gardens
> >early.
> >
> >WHITE-CROWNED SPARROW numbers are picking up, with about 6 seen, all
> >juveniles. WCSP were pretty much completely unreported from Marymoor
> >through June and July.
> >
> >Well over 100 HOUSE FINCH were feeding on the grass fields north of the
> >east
> >end of Snag Row. There were about 20 KILLDEER there, but (alas) no
> >Buff-breasted Sandpiper.
> >
> >We had four COMMON MERGANSERS (immature/female), our first since early
> >June.
> >
> >An eminantly forgettable day.
> >
> >== Michael Hobbs
> >== Kirkland, WA
> >== http://www.marymoor.org/birding.htm
> >== birdmarymoor at verizon.net
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Message: 12
> >Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:46:36 -0700
> >From: "Valerie Elliott" <VElliott at msn.com>
> >Subject: [Tweeters] 5th Edition of Nat'l Geo Birds
> >To: "tweeters" <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
> >Message-ID: <BAY110-DAV27148B34E9361AE3F23C8D0450 at phx.gbl>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> >The 5th edition of the National Geographic Field Guide, edited by Jon Dunn
> >and Jonathan Alderfer, is set for publication in early November. This is a
> >significant revision. It can be pre-ordered through the American Birding
> >Association bookstore/sales.
> >
> >Valerie Elliott
> >Olympia, WA.
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> >Message: 13
> >Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 21:06:56 -0700 (PDT)
> >From: Gary Bletsch <garybletsch at yahoo.com>
> >Subject: [Tweeters] Skagit Solitary Sand seen by cheap birder
> >To: tweeters at u.washington.edu
> >Message-ID: <20060825040656.89244.qmail at web51314.mail.yahoo.com>
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> >Dear Tweeters,
> >
> >The Solitary Sandpiper was at the little pond west of
> >Lyman (SR 20 milepost 73.8 in Skagit County) again
> >today, identified by a cheapskate birder.
> >
> >Generalizations are tricky, and maybe a waiter would
> >say that birders are parsimonious tippers.
> >
> >I'd say that birders are not really "cheap." It's just
> >that, unlike the majority of Americans, most birders
> >are not mindless consumers. Most birders I know do not
> >go deeply into debt to buy unnecessarily expensive
> >cars, boats, houses, and so forth. Most birders I know
> >are well-educated people who choose not to blunder
> >blithely down the consumeristic path of big-box
> >excess. I don't know what the American economy would
> >look like if everybody acted the way birders do. It
> >might be interesting to conjecture, though.
> >
> >
> >Yours truly,
> >
> >Gary Bletsch
> >
> >near Lyman (Skagit County), Washington
> >
> >garybletsch at yahoo.com
> >
> >
> >__________________________________________________
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> >Message: 14
> >Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 00:11:26 EDT
> >From: MurrayH at aol.com
> >Subject: [Tweeters] cheapskates
> >To: Tweeters at u.washington.edu
> >Message-ID: <473.54b4f9b.321fd26e at aol.com>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> >Being one myself--a poverty-stricken senior, that is--I love mysteries.
> >My
> >favorite mystery author is P.D. James. I suspect that all of my
> >until-now new birding friends will add other favorites in other genres,
> >such as
> >espionage, the western, and of course SciFi like "Dune" and the scary
> >Koontz and
> >the incredible Stephen King. (I still think that Cujo was the hero of the
> >book by the same name! ) and then, of course, there's the delightful
> >series
> >out of Botswana.
> > About our bird books--we find them where--and pay for them when
> >we
> >can--I still have my first issue of Continental Birdlife and I'm sure we
> >all
> >have very special books, collected over the years. Since that time, the
> >bird
> >books published are enormous: Nat'l. Geog., more Petersons, the Stokes 2,
> >Sibley's 4, Kaufman's 4--good heavens--
> > Our cup runneth over . . . Good birdiing,
> > Murray Joanne Hansen
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >(Mrs.) Murray Hansen
> >Graham, WA
> >MurrayH at aol.com
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> >Message: 15
> >Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 21:30:29 -0700 (PDT)
> >From: Kathy Andrich <chukarbird at yahoo.com>
> >Subject: Re: [Tweeters] Are we birders one of a feather?
> >To: Ian Paulsen <birdbooker at zipcon.net>, Kelly Cassidy
> > <lostriver at completebbs.com>
> >Cc: Tweeters <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
> >Message-ID: <20060825043029.4546.qmail at web52907.mail.yahoo.com>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> >
> >Hi Ian and Tweeters,
> >
> >As well as being cheap some of us notice the weirdest
> >things and I noticed this is about the longest posting
> >I have ever seen from Ian. I don't recall seeing such
> >a long Ian post before.
> >
> >One of my early birding guru's always stressed
> >spending money when you go places to bird and if
> >appropriate to let folks know you are there to enjoy
> >their birdlife.
> >
> >A little birding note, I was one day late for the
> >Snowy Egret at Nisqually. Darn, but I got a nice late
> >summer walk in.
> >
> >Kathy
> >Roosting in S King Couny
> >
> >--- Ian Paulsen <birdbooker at zipcon.net> wrote:
> >
> > > HI Kelly et al:
> > > NOPE, the waitpeople are right, Birders (and
> > > environmentalists in
> > > general) are cheapskates! As someone who follows the
> > > publishing business
> > > closely (especially natural history books) birders
> > > et al. have a
> > > reputation for being cheap. Until recently
> > > publishers were wary of
> > > printing bird books because they didn't sell. And if
> > > you at the market
> > > today it is still dominated by a few publishers
> > > mainly Yale/Princeton (and
> > > the Britsh company Helm/ACBlack) and Houghton
> > > Mifflin. How many birders
> > > out in tweeterland are old enough to remember
> > > Pacific Search magazine? It
> > > went belly-up and the publisher blamed it on cheap
> > > enviro-types. Also
> > > independant natural history booksellers don't like
> > > to carry bird books
> > > (especially used/out-of-print ones) because they
> > > don't sell. Birders go
> > > on-line and look for the cheapest copies
> > > (non-natural history booksellers
> > > also complain about the internet but that's another
> > > story). Gardening
> > > books sell better than bird books! True we buy
> > > expensive optics (but not
> > > very often) and travel but apparently we feel that
> > > being economical will
> > > help the environment. I feel that the only way to
> > > beat this bad reputation
> > > is to go out and spend (if you can afford to).
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Ian Paulsen
> > > Bainbridge Island, WA, USA
> > > A.K.A.: "Birdbooker"
> > > "Rallidae all the way!"
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Tweeters mailing list
> > > Tweeters at u.washington.edu
> > >
> >http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters
> > >
> >
> >
> >__________________________________________________
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> >
> >Message: 16
> >Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 21:53:15 -0700
> >From: "Rob Sandelin" <floriferous at msn.com>
> >Subject: [Tweeters] Birders in the local economies
> >To: <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
> >Message-ID: <BAY0-SMTP079438F8A8A4CA2CCB6773A3450 at phx.gbl>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> >I was eating breakfast in Forks, WA awhile ago and in the booth behind me a
> >couple pairs of locals were talking about tourists. One guy complained
> >about
> >tourists, the other three locals jumped on his case and rattled off 25
> >people they knew who made their living off visitors. Apparently there is
> >even an old lady bird guide who brings in business to the local
> >restaurants. The rest of the conversation was dominated by how much the
> >town
> >depended on nature to attract people and a general denouncing of "dumbass
> >loggers". Well, I sure left that place with a different attitude.
> >
> >
> >Rob Sandelin
> >Naturalist, Writer
> >The Environmental Science School
> >HYPERLINK
> >"http://www.nonprofitpages.com/nica/SVE.htm"http://www.nonprofitpages.com/ni
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> >
> >HYPERLINK
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >--
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> >Message: 17
> >Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 22:54:51 -0700 (PDT)
> >From: Ian Paulsen <birdbooker at zipcon.net>
> >Subject: Re: [Tweeters] Are we birders one of a feather?
> >To: Kathy Andrich <chukarbird at yahoo.com>
> >Cc: Tweeters <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
> >Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58L0.0608242254090.6753 at zipcon.net>
> >Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
> >
> >HI:
> > That's right, I'm cheap with words too!!!!!
> >
> >--
> >
> >Ian Paulsen
> >Bainbridge Island, WA, USA
> >A.K.A.: "Birdbooker"
> >"Rallidae all the way!"
> >
> >
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> >
> >Message: 18
> >Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 08:44:45 -0700
> >From: "Gary Shugart" <gwshugart at hotmail.com>
> >Subject: [Tweeters] updated Slater Museum bird wing collection
> >To: tweeters at u.washington.edu
> >Cc: jmiller at ups.edu
> >Message-ID: <BAY114-F449319B23F84784212A5DB1450 at phx.gbl>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
> >
> >Hi Tweeters: Over the summer the Slater Museum staff, especially Jason
> >Miller, have been updating and adding to the online wing collection
> >(digitalcollections.ups.edu/slatermuseum). The interface is now searchable
> >with some custom and advanced search options. Any comments, suggestions,
> >requests are welcome. Over the fall and winter I plan on adding
> >additional
> >wings illustrating variation and examples of molt limits. The latter are
> >useful for banders.
> >
> >The software we are using is ContentDM and it has a few quirks, see
> >www.ups.edu/5662.xml for an overview of the search capabilities, and
> >www.ups.edu/11965.xml, for comments on digital imaging and color rendering.
> >Sorry for the numeric addresses - the University's idea for ease of use.
> >
> >Gary Shugart
> >Collections Manager
> >Slater Museum of Natural History
> >University of Puget Sound
> >Tacoma, WA 98416
> >253 879-3356 (museum) 206 463-2169 (home)
> >gshugart at ups.edu, gwshugart at hotmail.com
> >http://www.ups.edu/slatermuseum.xml
> >http://digitalcollections.ups.edu
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >Message: 19
> >Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 23:38:17 -0700
> >From: Harry Nehls <hnehls at teleport.com>
> >Subject: [Tweeters] RBA: Portland, OR 8-24-06
> >To: RBA <hnehls at teleport.com>
> >Message-ID: <C1129769.DEA5%hnehls at teleport.com>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >- RBA
> >* Oregon
> >* Portland
> >* August 24, 2006
> >* ORPO0608.24
> >
> >- birds mentioned
> >
> >Snowy Egret
> >Red-shouldered Hawk
> >Wandering Tattler
> >Stilt Sandpiper
> >Ruff
> >Red-necked Phalarope
> >South Polar Skua
> >Common Tern
> >Short-eared Owl
> >Vauxs Swift
> >American three-toed Woodpecker
> >Swainsons Thrush
> >Brewers Sparrow
> >Bobolink
> >
> >- transcript
> >
> >Hotline: Portland Oregon Audubon RBA (weekly)
> >number: 503-292-6855
> >To report: Harry Nehls 503-233-3976 <hnehls at teleport.com>
> >compiler: Harry Nehls
> >coverage: entire state
> >
> >Hello, this is the Audubon Society of Portland Rare Bird Report. This
> >report
> >was made Thursday August 24. If you have anything to add call Harry Nehls
> >at
> >503-233-3976.
> >
> >A heavy surge of migrant shorebirds passed through the state during the
> >week, including large numbers of RED-NECKED PHALAROPES. The first nocturnal
> >wave of SWAINSONS THRUSHES was reported, and numbers of VAUXS SWIFTS are
> >now gathering at Willamette Valley chimneys.
> >
> >An early SHORT-EARED OWL was seen August 21 at New River, south of Bandon.
> >On August 22 a RUFF was seen at the South Jetty of the Siuslaw River. Among
> >the many seabirds seen on the August 20 offshore trip out of Newport was a
> >SOUTH POLAR SKUA. A RED-SHOULDERED HAWK was seen August 22 on Cascade Head,
> >north of Lincoln City. On August 22 a STILT SANDPIPER was at Stanley Lake
> >in
> >Seaside.
> >
> >A completely out of place WANDERING TATTLER was seen August 22 foraging on
> >streets and lawns in Dallas, west of Salem. A BREWERS SPARROW was at
> >Pioneer Villa Sewage Ponds near Brownsville August 18. A juvenile SNOWY
> >EGRET is now being seen at Fern Ridge Reservoir. A COMMON TERN was there
> >August 23. On August 18 a RED-SHOULDERED HAWK was at Lost Lake in Santiam
> >Pass.
> >
> >On August 19 a STILT SANDPIPER was at Tumalo Reservoir, west of Bend. On
> >August 23 a flock of about 110 BOBOLINKS was near Paulina. An unexpected
> >AMERICAN THREE-TOED WOODPECKER was seen August 18 at Walton Lake in the
> >Ochoco Mountains.
> >
> >Thats it for this week.
> >
> >- end transcript
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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> >Message: 20
> >Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 13:17:22 EDT
> >From: Scrubjay323 at aol.com
> >Subject: [Tweeters] Nisqually NWR 8/24/06
> >To: tweeters at u.washington.edu
> >Message-ID: <4d2.5f9768f.32208aa2 at aol.com>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> >Tweets,
> >
> >Yesterday 11 of us enjoyed a nice walk at Nisqually, again going out to the
> >photo blind on the McAllister Creek side and not going to the ring dike.
> >This
> >time we were looking (in vain) for the SNOWY EGRET that had been seen there
> >recently. Alas, no luck. It was not seen at all yesterday.
> >
> >We did have a good day highlighted by four BAIRD'S SANDPIPERS flying in to
> >the exposed mud at McAllister Creek where the trail from the parking lot
> >intersects the McAllister Creek trail. We also got good comparison looks at
> > GREAT
> >and LESSER YELLOWLEGS as they foraged near each other near the photo
> >blind.
> >
> >The wooded areas were fairly quiet when we got there but we had good looks
> >at a DOWNEY WOODPECKER and RED-BREASTED SAPSUCKER working the same small
> >trees
> >at the same time. First time I've seen two different species of woodpeckers
> >in such close proximity.
> >
> >We also saw a couple of VAUX'S SWIFTS over the visitor center as we
> >finished
> >the walk about 1:00 PM. Swallow numbers were down but all the species were
> >present.
> >
> >All told we had 48 species for the day with the BAIRD'S SANDPIPERS being
> >new
> >for the year.
> >
> >Mammals seen included a MINK, a COYOTE pup, and a RACOON. The COYOTE
> >clearly
> >needs some guidance if it is to survive, as it wasn't afraid of us at all
> >as
> >it sat near the trail at the willows on the way to McAllister Creek.
> >
> >Until next week...
> >
> >Phil Kelley
> >Lacey, WA
> >scrubjay323 at aol.com
> >360-459-1499
> >
> >" We were few and they were many. Now we are many and they are few"
> >Confucius
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> >Message: 21
> >Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 11:39:28 -0700
> >From: "mike denny" <m.denny at charter.net>
> >Subject: [Tweeters] Massive Bird Habitat loss due to wildfire
> >To: "Inland NW Birders" <inland-nw-birders at uidaho.edu>, "tweeters"
> > <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
> >Message-ID: <000501c6c875$cc99acf0$0886bd44 at BLACKBIRD>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252";
> > reply-type=original
> >
> >Hello All,
> >Just returned from one of the fires in Columbia Co. and we now know that
> >several of the most important Neo-tropical Migratory Bird breeding areas in
> >Southeastern Washington have gone up in flames. The most devastating fire
> >is
> >called the Pyne Hollow Fire and to date it has burned 67,000 acres and is
> >still growing! Bird habitat losses will take years to recover. The loss of
> >many riparian creek bottoms and dense black hawthorn scrub forests will
> >have
> >a huge impact on many dependant species. The cost to the humans in the area
> >is not slight either. This fire is on private lands and is being fought by
> >the DNR and Columbia Co. fire folks.
> >Later Mike
> >
> >********************************************************************
> >Mike & MerryLynn Denny
> >1354 S. E. Central Ave.
> >College Place, WA 99324
> >509.529.0080 (h)
> >
> >IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN BIRDING, YOU HAVEN'T LIVED!
> >*******************************************************************
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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