Subject: [Tweeters] Feeding Juvenile Peregrine Falcon
Date: Dec 9 17:20:03 2006
From: Erin and/or Jon - dummies at seanet.com
Hi Tweeters,
I was out walking in the Mt. Baker neighborhood of Seattle today, and saw a
small hawk-like bird land in a tree. A look through the binoculars showed
that it was a young Peregrine Falcon, and it had a kill! For about 15
minutes I was able to watch it feed up in the branches. The little songbird
in its talons, aka "lunch", became littler and littler, as the young Falcon
fed with gusto. Eventually a group of crows came in and the Falcon took off
over the ridge. I've spied many a bird of prey here in the city, but this
was the first time I've been able to watch one feed. Graphic, but beautiful!
Good birding,
- Jonathan Hochberg
Seattle, WA
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1. Cinnamon Teal and Dippers near Elma (Grays Harbor Co.)
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2. Scope for sale (Doug)
3. RE: Emperor Goose yes, on 6-goose day! (scompton at sc.rr.com)
4. A few questions from a visiting birder (Anne Brown)
5. Re: A few questions from a visiting birder (B & P Bell)
6. RE: ELWAS Samish trip 5 Dec (Marc Hoffman)
7. Vashon CBC needs Blake Is. and Kitsap help (Ed Swan)
8. birds and toxic berries (AMY DAVID SHUMANN)
9. Crow net info (Kathy Andrich)
10. scope query (Eugene and Nancy Hunn)
11. Another scope query, Leica vs. Swarovski (Rachel)
12. Re: birds and toxic berries (mike denny)
13. Common Redpolls (Doug Schonewald)
14. FW: BirdLife News Alert - Latest News (Eric Kowalczyk)
15. Eurasian Collared-Doves in Goldendale (Dennis Paulson)
16. tidbit on snowberries (vogelfreund at comcast.net)
17. Re: birds and toxic berries (Jeff Kozma)
18. Re: birds and toxic berries (Wayne C. Weber)
19. Re: birds and toxic berries (Rob Conway)
20. Re: Vashon CBC needs Blake Is. and Kitsap help (Ed Swan)
21. Lunchtime Hawk-watching (Mary K.)
22. books-botany & birds (Martha Jordan)
23. RBA: KING EIDER at Semiahmoo Resort near Blaine (Whatcom Co.)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 12:20:20 -0800 (PST)
From: "Tim O'Brien" <kertim7179 at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Tweeters] Cinnamon Teal and Dippers near Elma (Grays Harbor
Co.)
To: tweeters at u.washington.edu
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A big thanks to Ruth and Patrick Sullivan for finding an American Dipper in
Grays Harbor County yesterday! It is definitely a difficult bird to find in
the county. I drove out to the bridge on S. Union Rd. this morning and
found two American Dippers there. They were on the north side of the
bridge.
Also, this morning, at the Satsop Development Park (old nuke site)
mitigation pond on Utility Lane, I found an adult male Cinnamon Teal amidst
the hundreds of ducks there. I also thought I saw a male Eurasian Wigeon
there, but I quickly lost it and wasn't convinced that it was a pure
Eurasian. If you want to see ducks, this pond is the place!
Tim O'Brien
Elma, WA
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 13:00:21 -0800
From: "Doug" <dhudson at silverlink.net>
Subject: [Tweeters] Scope for sale
To: <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
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I have been contacted by a lady in Poulsbo who has a Leica Televid scope and
Bogen tripod which, due to an illness, are now up for sale.
Leica Televid 77 (77mm objective) scope, non fluorite lenses, 45 degree
20-60x eyepiece, in the original box. The tripod is a Bogen 3221W with a
3130 head. The scope and tripod have the quick disconnect feature. Both
the scope and tripod are in very good (near new) condition. I understand
these items were in the field only about 5 times and have been stored in a
closet for the past 5 years. The owner made flannel bags for both the scope
and pod and are included in the sale. The bags are great for storage but
are not strong enough for field use. A window mount is included but I do
not know if it has the quick disconnect.
The scope lists at almost $1,500 now and the tripod/head combo goes for
around $230 now. Here is a link to the Eagle Optics page for this scope:
http://www.eagleoptics.com/index.asp?pid=1632
If interested, please contact the owner, Jan Janzen at 360/598-3022 or via
e-mail at egjanzen at comcast.net. The owner lives just off of the Hwy. 3
freeway in Poulsbo.
Doug Hudson
dhudson at silverlink dot net
Bremerton, WA
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 16:15:24 -0500
From: "scompton at sc.rr.com" <scompton at sc.rr.com>
Subject: RE: [Tweeters] Emperor Goose yes, on 6-goose day!
To: garybletsch at yahoo.com, tweeters at u.washington.edu
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Dear Washington birders,
The Emperor Goose was seen my many birders this morning (Friday) in the
same spot
near Snohomish. This completed my first week of winter birding in
Washington, and
was my 14th North American Life List new bird this week. Here's the total:
12/4 Montlake Fill:
Golden-crowned Sparrow
Thayer's Gull
Magnuson Park:
Eurasian Wigeon
12/5 ELWAS trip led by Brian Bell to Sagit Flats and Sammish Island:
Trumpeter Swan
Rough-legged Hawk
Northern Shrike
Pacific Loon
Mew Gull
12/6 Volunteer Park
Red-breasted Sapsucker
12/7 Whidbey Island
Black Oystercatcher at Deception Pass State Park-West Beach
Penn Cove:
Barrow's Goldeneye
Surfbird
Black Turnstone (The two shorebirds were feeding on the mussel platforms)
12/7 Snohomish:
Emperor Goose
I used "A Birder's Guide to Washington" by Hal Opperman, "Birding in Seattle
and King County" by Eugene Hunn, and gleaned info from "Tweeters". Most of
all,
I was helped repeatedly and generously by local Washington birders, both in
person
and on-line. Thanks to all for helping me make this a great week. You have
a beautful part of the country here and fantastic birding! If you could
only do something about that traffic on I-5. I can see why so many folks
want to live here.
With gratitude,
Steve Compton
of Summerville,SC
writing from Capitol Hill, Seattle
PS: Please call upon me for help and advice if you ever visit South Carolina
<scompton at sc.rr.com>
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From: Gary Bletsch garybletsch at yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 19:46:46 -0800 (PST)
To: tweeters at u.washington.edu
Subject: [Tweeters] Emperor Goose yes, on 6-goose day!
Dear Tweeters,
Having to take a day off for a doctor's appointment
wasn't so bad after all. I raced down from Skagit
County after the appointment, to find the Emperor
Goose right there where it has been reported, on the W
side of SR 9, just S of Marsh Road, on the SW side of
the town of Snohomish. The bird was with a Greater
White-fronted Goose. Another 13 or so of these
Greater-white-fronts foraged apart from the odd
couple. Lots of Trumpeter Swans, a few Tundra Swans,
quite a few Cackling Geese, a few Canada Geese, and a
few Glaucous-winged Gulls were also foraging in the
field. Single American Pipit and Northern Harrier were
there. Also, the Greater-white Fronted Geese were
being mean to a couple of Dunlin, chasing after them
and flushing them now and then.
After finding four species of geese in one field,
which I think is the most geese species I had ever
seen in one day, I decided, the heck with report
cards! I went to Fir Island, where Snow Geese were of
course all over the place. Then I zipped up to Padilla
Bay at dusk, in time to find a few thousand Brant out
on the bay. Six species of geese in one day! I doubt I
will ever see that again!
Thanks to Steve Mlodinow and other Tweeters for making
my day!
Now if I could just get the last of these darn cards
printed off....
Yours truly,
Gary Bletsch
Yours truly,
Gary Bletsch
near Lyman (Skagit County), Washington
garybletsch at yahoo.com
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 14:33:54 -0700
From: "Anne Brown" <harelde at hotmail.com>
Subject: [Tweeters] A few questions from a visiting birder
To: tweeters at u.washington.edu
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Hi all,
My fiance and I will be visiting Washington State this winter, landing at
SeaTac on December 15th and leaving from Pasco on Dec 26th. We plan on
spending about 5 days birding on the west side of the Cascades, driving over
the mountains on the 20th or the 21st, and spending the rest of our time
visiting family in the Tri-Cities area, with a possible birding trip to
Moses Lake or Spokane.
We're still trying to figure out whether we'll be spending the first part of
our trip heading north from Seattle to the Skagit and Samish Flats and all
the way north to Blaine or if we will be going to the Pacific coast instead
(Ocean Shores in particular, and Nisqually on the way there). I have a few
questions about where to find some species that we would particularly like
to see.
1) First, I was wondering if there is any reliable place in western WA to
see mountain quail. It would be a lifer for us and we both have a
particular fondness for funny-looking gallinaceous birds.
2) We're also crazy about owls, and I was wondering if anybody knows if
there is still a snowy owl hanging out at the Blaine marina, or at any other
coastal location, or inland near Moses Lake? Also, is anybody aware of the
location of a long-eared owl roost in the Tri-Cities area or vicinity?
3) What are good places to see large numbers of snow geese (preferably areas
that are not currently being hunted)? I have seen some posts on this list
mentioning the "Hayden Snow Goose Preserve", but I have not been able to
find this place on a map. Is it open to the public, and if so, could
someone give me directions on how to get there?
4) Finally, what are good places to see Anna's hummingbirds and Townsend's
warblers at this time of the year? Or gray-crowned rosy-finches?
Thank you,
Anne Brown
Durham, North Carolina
harelde AT hotmail.com
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 14:10:34 -0800
From: "B & P Bell" <bellasoc at isomedia.com>
Subject: Re: [Tweeters] A few questions from a visiting birder
To: "Anne Brown" <harelde at hotmail.com>, <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
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Hi Anne and Tweets
On your point 3 for Snow Geese - The Hayton Preserve is on Fir Island in
Skagit County. A good discussion of the area is in the ABA A Birder's Guide
to Washington (the essential reference for finding good birding spots in the
state). The chapter starts on p. 113 and an excellent map is on p. 114. You
reach Fir Island off of I-5 at the Conway exit (exit 221) northbound. Turn
left and cross over the freeway and take the turn into Conway, this will put
you on Fir Island Road. The Fir Island Farm/Hayton Preserve is a little more
than 2.5 miles down the road once you cross the Skagit River and onto Fir
Island. Yesterday, a major group of Snow Geese were found off of the
north-south part of Maupin Road (about 12,000) with another significant
group on the north side of Fir Island Rd. just west of the Hayton Preserve.
The Snow Geese move around from day to day, avoiding the areas where there
is hunting going on. You want to get one of the ABA guides and then using
the map for directions drive the streets and scan looking for the geese
(there have also been some groups of Trumpeter Swans in the fields also).
A second major area for the Snow Geese is south of Stanwood (ABA Guide page
184) along Boe Road. Take SR532 west from I-5 (exit 212) to Stanwood and
turn left on 267th Pl NW. This will take you to Marine Dr. Turn right
(south) and go to Boe Road and turn right. Take Boe to it's end - the Snow
Geese are usually in the fields south of the road (the area north of the
road is open to hunters). You can also look for them along Thomle Rd (a ways
north of Boe Rd).
Maps and excellent directions are in the ABA Guide and will help you with
your other wanderings around our state.
Good Birding,
Brian H. Bell
Birding & Natural History Guide
Woodinville WA
mailto bellasoc at isomedia dot com
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From: "Anne Brown" <harelde at hotmail.com>
To: <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 1:33 PM
Subject: [Tweeters] A few questions from a visiting birder
> Hi all,
>
> My fiance and I will be visiting Washington State this winter, landing at
> SeaTac on December 15th and leaving from Pasco on Dec 26th. We plan on
> spending about 5 days birding on the west side of the Cascades, driving
> over the mountains on the 20th or the 21st, and spending the rest of our
> time visiting family in the Tri-Cities area, with a possible birding trip
> to Moses Lake or Spokane.
>
> We're still trying to figure out whether we'll be spending the first part
> of our trip heading north from Seattle to the Skagit and Samish Flats and
> all the way north to Blaine or if we will be going to the Pacific coast
> instead (Ocean Shores in particular, and Nisqually on the way there). I
> have a few questions about where to find some species that we would
> particularly like to see.
>
> 1) First, I was wondering if there is any reliable place in western WA to
> see mountain quail. It would be a lifer for us and we both have a
> particular fondness for funny-looking gallinaceous birds.
>
> 2) We're also crazy about owls, and I was wondering if anybody knows if
> there is still a snowy owl hanging out at the Blaine marina, or at any
> other coastal location, or inland near Moses Lake? Also, is anybody aware
> of the location of a long-eared owl roost in the Tri-Cities area or
> vicinity?
>
> 3) What are good places to see large numbers of snow geese (preferably
> areas that are not currently being hunted)? I have seen some posts on
> this list mentioning the "Hayden Snow Goose Preserve", but I have not been
> able to find this place on a map. Is it open to the public, and if so,
> could someone give me directions on how to get there?
>
> 4) Finally, what are good places to see Anna's hummingbirds and Townsend's
> warblers at this time of the year? Or gray-crowned rosy-finches?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Anne Brown
> Durham, North Carolina
> harelde AT hotmail.com
>
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 14:15:38 -0800
From: Marc Hoffman <tweeters at dartfrogmedia.com>
Subject: [Tweeters] RE: ELWAS Samish trip 5 Dec
To: tweeters at u.washington.edu
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Many thanks to Brian Bell for leading a wonderful trip last Tuesday.
I'm between "real" cameras nowadays, but here are some photos I took
with my old 2.1 MP Olympus (10x optical plus 2.1x teleconverter):
http://www.dartfrogmedia.com/birds/skagit061205/
Marc Hoffman
Kirkland, WA
http://www.dartfrogmedia.com
tweeters at dartfrogmedia dot com
>Hi Tweets
>
>Yesterday I led an East Lake Washington Audubon trip to the Samish
>and Skagit Flats (D-5 on p. 109 in DeLorme). The day started out
>well as we had a nice grouping of TRUMPETER SWANS close to the road
>and right by a parking area at Chuckanut Driver and I-5. A couple of
>TUNDRA SWANS were also with one of the groups along the Drive. Up in
>the town of Bow we had three BALD EAGLES perched in trees, and right
>over our heads a nice adult PEREGRINE FALCON. On double checking the
>area we found a gorgeous RED-TAILED HAWK a bit lower down on one of
>the trees. We slowly drove the residential neighborhood of Blanchard
>(just before Chuckanut Drive climbs along the edge of Samish Bay).
>Variously there we had RUBY-CROWNED KINGLET, HOUSE SPARROW,
>GOLDEN-CROWNED and WHITE-CROWNED, SONG and FOX SPARROWS, SPOTTED
>TOWHEES. In one tree we had a perched MERLIN with an absolutely
>stuffed crop - it must have had a super meal. Turning west toward
>Edison we had a few AMERICAN COOTs in the canal and a NORTHERN
>SHRIKE perched on some wild roses. Many COMMON RAVENS were cavorting
>north of us, and several more BALD EAGLES were there. A NORTHERN
>HARRIER was over the fields, and further down the road was a second
>one - both females.
>
>As we made the turn to Samish Island Road we had nice looks at a
>dark morph ROUGH-LEGGED HAWK. Several more RED-TAILED HAWKs were
>along the tree lines. At the West 90 (where Samish Island Road turns
>to the north we had 7 more NORTHERN HARRIERs working the fields and
>5 or 6 SHORT-EARED OWLS. At one point we had a Short-eared perched
>about 100 yards away in good light - great thru the scopes. Then we
>discovered a Harrier nestled down in the grass about 30 yards away.
>Great looks, and excellent opportunities to study behavior.
>
>We continued up toward Samish Island and had a second NORTHERN
>SHRIKE along the way, this one perched obligingly for us. At the
>access point on Wharf Road at the northern end of the island we had
>lots of activity. FOX and SONG SPARROWs, both kinglets, SPOTTED
>TOWHEE, DOWNY WOODPECKER, and CHESTNUT-BACKED and BLACK-CAPPED
>CHICKADEEs. Several VARIED THRUSHEs were in nearby conifers. A
>COOPER'S HAWK was on top of a distant conifer. Out on Samish Bay we
>had COMMON GOLDENEYE, RED-BREASTED MERGANSER, SURF and WHITE-WINGED
>SCOTER, BUFFLEHEAD and LONG-TAILED DUCK, as well as DOUBLE-CRESTED
>CORMORANT, COMMON and PACIFIC LOONs, HORNED and RED-NECKED GREBEs,
>and in the distance BRANT. Driving back down the island there were
>several thousand wigeon out on Padilla Bay, but the distance and
>light was wrong for good identification.
>
>We made our way down to the Skagit Flats and Fir Island (B-5 on p.
>95 of DeLorme) and out to the access point on Rawlins Rd. Offshore
>were perhaps as many as 50,000 MALLARDs, and even at a distance
>their "talk" was loud. More NORTHERN HARRIERS were visible from the
>Jensen Access off Maupin Road. We stopped at the Hayton Preserve to
>look for the SWAMP SPARROW, but even with the assistance of one of
>our members from South Carolina we couldn't pull it out. As a
>consolation we another BALD EAGLE perched near a nest, another
>PEREGRINE FALCON came in and perched and we had three very close
>flybys by SHORT-EARED OWLS. One perched about 50 yards away for
>scoop views, was flushed by another and then landed about 30 yards
>away - fantastic views.
>
>Lots of GREAT BLUE HERONs, AMERICAN CROWs during the day and a
>sprinkling of GREEN-WINGED TEAL, NORTHERN PINTAIL, NORTHERN
>SHOVELER, HOODED and COMMON MERGANSERs, a few BLACK-BELLIED PLOVERs
>and about a thousand DUNLIN from the Jensen Access.
>
>We had excellent weather all day (even the wind stopped after the
>first 15 minutes) and finished with 72 species for the day.
>
>It was a great day!
>
>Brian H. Bell
>Woodinville WA
>bellasoc at isomedia dot com
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 14:16:45 -0800
From: "Ed Swan" <edswan at centurytel.net>
Subject: [Tweeters] Vashon CBC needs Blake Is. and Kitsap help
To: "tweeters" <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
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The Vashon CBC on December 29 still needs help with two great territories.
The Kitsap territory had a number of interesting birds including a Ruffed
Grouse last year. The Blake Island territory covers the waters between
Vashon and Blake Islands and the southern two-thirds of Blake Island. We
would need someone with access to a boat or kayak to cover this area. This
is a new territory never covered in the count but should get a wide range of
water and land birds.
Call Sue Trevathan at (206)463-7976 or email her at
sue.trevathan at centurytel.net. You can contact me at (206)463-7976 or
edswan at centurytel.net if you can't reach Sue.
Ed Swan
Vashon Island
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 16:16:59 -0800
From: "AMY DAVID SHUMANN" <daccshumann at msn.com>
Subject: [Tweeters] birds and toxic berries
To: tweeters at u.washington.edu
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Hi Tweeters,
Last April I posted a message about a dozen or so Cedar Waxwings that were
found dead in Freeway Park. Given the disucssion about birds and berries I
thought it was worth repeating. Enviornmental Health folks at Public Health
did autopsies on the birds because of West Nile concerns. It turns out that
the Waxwings died from cyanide poisoning from the cotoneaster berries they
were eating in Freeway Park. Apparently this type of toxicity has been
documented in the Midwest, but not in this area. I don't know what causes
the berries on some plants to become toxic. An unfortunate development for
the Waxwings.
Amy Shumann
Seattle
daccshumann at msn.com
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 16:23:01 -0800 (PST)
From: Kathy Andrich <chukarbird at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Tweeters] Crow net info
To: tweet <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
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Hi Tweeters,
Anyone out there subscribed to Crownet? I joined
quite a while ago got about 2 messages and kind of
forgot about it until I was cleaning out old email
folders. Is it defunct?
Kathy
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 16:54:04 -0800
From: "Eugene and Nancy Hunn" <enhunn323 at comcast.net>
Subject: [Tweeters] scope query
To: <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
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Tweets,
I'm looking for a scope upgrade and was wondering if anyone has had
experience with the new Nikon 82mm fieldscope ED?
Gene Hunn
18476 47th Pl. NE
Lake Forest Park, WA 98155
enhunn323 at comcast.net
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 18:31:26 -0800
From: "Rachel" <RachelWL at msn.com>
Subject: [Tweeters] Another scope query, Leica vs. Swarovski
To: <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
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I also hope to get a new scope in 2007. I am looking at the Leica
Televid 62 mm and the Swarovski 65 mm and would appreciate hearing what
Tweeters have to say about these two scopes, including whether the
APO/HD versions are worth the extra money, and the relative merits of
the zoom eyepieces.
Please reply privately. Thanks.
Rachel Lawson
Seattle
RachelWL at msn.com
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 18:56:52 -0800
From: "mike denny" <m.denny at charter.net>
Subject: Re: [Tweeters] birds and toxic berries
To: "AMY DAVID SHUMANN" <daccshumann at msn.com>,
<tweeters at u.washington.edu>
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Hello All,
On 7 November 2004 while birding with John Gatchet below McNary Dam on the
Columbia River. We watched as two tan-striped White-throated Sparrows fed on
the beautiful eye catching red-orange fruits/berries of the Climbing
Nightshade (Solanum dulcamara). These sparrows fed on 5-7 berries each,
smashing the soft red flesh and consuming the seeds with seeming impunity.
This plant and all of its parts are poison and contain compounds such as
solanine, glycoside,dulcamarine to name a few. So we marveled at how these
two small bodied birds could ingest these toxins and then fly off
unaffected? See Oregon Birds 31(3):117.
Later Mike
********************************************************************
Mike & MerryLynn Denny
1354 S. E. Central Ave.
College Place, WA 99324
509.529.0080 (h)
IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN BIRDING, YOU HAVEN'T LIVED!
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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 19:04:48 -0800
From: "Doug Schonewald" <dschone8 at donobi.net>
Subject: [Tweeters] Common Redpolls
To: <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
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Hi Tweets,
Stopped by the local cemetery today and found 10 Common Redpolls savoring
the birch seeds. While fairly common winter birds on the Douglas Plateau, we
get few birds this far south (or at least they don't hang around). Keep your
eye peeled if you are out in the hinterlands for that very pale redpoll.
Cheers
Doug Schonewald
Moses Lake, WA
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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 19:43:48 -0800
From: "Eric Kowalczyk" <aceros at mindspring.com>
Subject: [Tweeters] FW: BirdLife News Alert - Latest News
To: "tweeters" <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
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> BirdLife News Alert
> Fri Dec 8 18:00:01 2006
> New items on the BirdLife International website:
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> "Tragedy" for Cerulean Warbler
> http://www.birdlife.org/news/news/2006/12/cerulean_warbler.html
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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 20:41:46 -0800
From: Dennis Paulson <dennispaulson at comcast.net>
Subject: [Tweeters] Eurasian Collared-Doves in Goldendale
To: Tweeters <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
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Hello, all.
Netta Smith and I stopped in Goldendale, Klickitat Co., WA, briefly
on a trip down highway 97, drove around a few city streets looking
for Eurasian Collared-Doves and suddenly saw a tall, leafless tree
full of them! There were about 18-20 in the flock. We stopped and had
just started counting them when a Sharp-shinned Hawk bombing past
under the tree apparently spooked them, and they left the tree in a
whoosh and scattered. Eight of them came back, and we got good looks
at them but couldn't find the others again. They were on Court Street
just south of Main Street. My first for Washington, I knew it was
only a matter of time before I stumbled on one or more of them. From
the reports I recall seeing on tweeters, I wouldn't be surprised if
there were hundreds of them by now in Washington.
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1724 NE 98 St.
Seattle, WA 98115
206-528-1382
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Message: 16
Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 04:42:14 +0000
From: vogelfreund at comcast.net
Subject: [Tweeters] tidbit on snowberries
To: Tweeters at u.washington.edu
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12/8/06
To add to the snowberry file, I still vividly remember seeing my first good
look at Purple Finches, that were feeding on snowberries outside our kitchen
window in Madison, Wisconsin in the late 1940's.
Somewhere I read that snowberries require aging before they are acceptable
to birds; making for a late winter food. Maybe they have a little alcohol in
them by late winter?
Phil Hotlen
Bellingham, WA
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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 20:54:29 -0800
From: "Jeff Kozma" <jkozma at charter.net>
Subject: Re: [Tweeters] birds and toxic berries
To: "mike denny" <m.denny at charter.net>
Cc: Tweeters <Tweeters at u.washington.edu>
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Similarly, I have watched Northern Cardinals eat the berries of climbing
nightshade back east and were seemingly unaffected.
Jeff Kozma
Yakima
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From: "mike denny" <m.denny at charter.net>
To: "AMY DAVID SHUMANN" <daccshumann at msn.com>; <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 6:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Tweeters] birds and toxic berries
> Hello All,
> On 7 November 2004 while birding with John Gatchet below McNary Dam on the
> Columbia River. We watched as two tan-striped White-throated Sparrows fed
> on the beautiful eye catching red-orange fruits/berries of the Climbing
> Nightshade (Solanum dulcamara). These sparrows fed on 5-7 berries each,
> smashing the soft red flesh and consuming the seeds with seeming impunity.
> This plant and all of its parts are poison and contain compounds such as
> solanine, glycoside,dulcamarine to name a few. So we marveled at how these
> two small bodied birds could ingest these toxins and then fly off
> unaffected? See Oregon Birds 31(3):117.
> Later Mike
>
> ********************************************************************
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> 1354 S. E. Central Ave.
> College Place, WA 99324
> 509.529.0080 (h)
>
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Message: 18
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 22:22:56 -0800
From: "Wayne C. Weber" <contopus at telus.net>
Subject: Re: [Tweeters] birds and toxic berries
To: "MIKE DENNY" <m.denny at charter.net>
Cc: TWEETERS <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
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Mike and Tweeters,
Climbing nightshade, or bittersweet nightshade (Solanum dulcamara)
is a widespread weed in Washington, and as you point out, its toxic
properties are well-known.
However, the highest concentration of the toxic alkaloids are in the
green (immature) fruits. The ripe fruits, which are orange-red in color
(like miniature tomatoes) have little or none of the toxic chemicals.
In addition, at least one source that I consulted claimed that
the plant is not poisonous to birds, although the immature fruits
are known to be extremely toxic to humans, sheep, and rodents,
at the least.
One should not assume, because a given plant is poisonous to humans
and other mammals, that it is poisonous to birds. For example, poison
ivy and poison oak berries, while poisonous to humans, are not toxic
to birds and are eaten by numerous bird species. On the other hand,
avocados, which are quite edible to humans, can be deadly to some birds.
I have heard of pet parrots being killed after being fed avocado by their
owner, who was unaware of their poisonous properties.
So it may well be that sparrows and other birds can eat and digest
nightshade berries with no harm at all.
Wayne C. Weber
Delta, BC
contopus at telus.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "mike denny" <m.denny at charter.net>
To: "AMY DAVID SHUMANN" <daccshumann at msn.com>; <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 6:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Tweeters] birds and toxic berries
Hello All,
On 7 November 2004 while birding with John Gatchet below McNary
Dam on the Columbia River. We watched as two tan-striped
White-throated Sparrows fed on the beautiful eye catching red-orange
fruits/berries of the Climbing Nightshade (Solanum dulcamara). These
sparrows fed on 5-7 berries each, smashing the soft red flesh and
consuming the seeds with seeming impunity.
This plant and all of its parts are poison and contain compounds such as
solanine, glycoside,dulcamarine to name a few. So we marveled at
how these two small bodied birds could ingest these toxins and then
fly off unaffected? See Oregon Birds 31(3):117.
Later Mike
********************************************************************
Mike & MerryLynn Denny
1354 S. E. Central Ave.
College Place, WA 99324
509.529.0080 (h)
IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN BIRDING, YOU HAVEN'T LIVED!
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Message: 19
Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 10:24:27 +0000
From: "Rob Conway" <robin_birder at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Tweeters] birds and toxic berries
To: contopus at telus.net, m.denny at charter.net
Cc: tweeters at u.washington.edu
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Wayne is exactly right - toxicity (and other palatability factors) vary from
lifeform to lifeform and can change radically in plants from plant part to
plant part and in maturation lifecycle.
For information on Cotoneaster related cyanide poisoning and the toxicity
cycle see:
http://agbiopubs.sdstate.edu/articles/FHR54-4.pdf
A great example of fruit maturity palatability variation in humans is
Solanum tuberosum poisoning (commonly known as green potato poisoning).
Solanine, the poison in question is highly toxic and can cause death if
eaten in even small amounts. Solanine is found in all parts of potato
plants but is especially concentrated in green potato skins and in potato
sprouts. It can cause paralysis, shock, and hypothermia - it lowers all
metabolic functions and can slow or stop heartbeat and/or breathing. Not
something to fool with - if you have green potatoes throw them out. Don't
try just peeling the green away - the toxicity can contaminate layers below
the skin and can be transfered through handling. Potato sprouts should
always be disposed of carefully - just a couple of bites can kill a dog.
Chocolate = humans yum, dogs funeral
and remember Laetril? Apricot kernels (yucky - taste like bitter almond
extract) can be toxic to humans if consumed in amounts of 2 ounces or more
at a sitting. Still, products containing this (and even kernels themselves)
are still sold out of ignorance.
see: http://www.personalmd.com/news/a1998120903.shtml
Ending on a bird note... I've seen a friends Macaw eat 6 whole dried
habanero peppers in one minute flat - my hands go numb if I touch them!
Cheers
Rob
Rob Conway
Newcastle, WA
robin_birder at hotmail.com
>From: "Wayne C. Weber" <contopus at telus.net>
>To: "MIKE DENNY" <m.denny at charter.net>
>CC: TWEETERS <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
>Subject: Re: [Tweeters] birds and toxic berries
>Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 22:22:56 -0800
>
>Mike and Tweeters,
>
>Climbing nightshade, or bittersweet nightshade (Solanum dulcamara)
>is a widespread weed in Washington, and as you point out, its toxic
>properties are well-known.
>
>However, the highest concentration of the toxic alkaloids are in the
>green (immature) fruits. The ripe fruits, which are orange-red in color
>(like miniature tomatoes) have little or none of the toxic chemicals.
>
>In addition, at least one source that I consulted claimed that
>the plant is not poisonous to birds, although the immature fruits
>are known to be extremely toxic to humans, sheep, and rodents,
>at the least.
>
>One should not assume, because a given plant is poisonous to humans
>and other mammals, that it is poisonous to birds. For example, poison
>ivy and poison oak berries, while poisonous to humans, are not toxic
>to birds and are eaten by numerous bird species. On the other hand,
>avocados, which are quite edible to humans, can be deadly to some birds.
>I have heard of pet parrots being killed after being fed avocado by their
>owner, who was unaware of their poisonous properties.
>
>So it may well be that sparrows and other birds can eat and digest
>nightshade berries with no harm at all.
>
>Wayne C. Weber
>Delta, BC
>contopus at telus.net
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "mike denny" <m.denny at charter.net>
>To: "AMY DAVID SHUMANN" <daccshumann at msn.com>; <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
>Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 6:56 PM
>Subject: Re: [Tweeters] birds and toxic berries
>
>
>Hello All,
>
>On 7 November 2004 while birding with John Gatchet below McNary
>Dam on the Columbia River. We watched as two tan-striped
>White-throated Sparrows fed on the beautiful eye catching red-orange
>fruits/berries of the Climbing Nightshade (Solanum dulcamara). These
>sparrows fed on 5-7 berries each, smashing the soft red flesh and
>consuming the seeds with seeming impunity.
>
>This plant and all of its parts are poison and contain compounds such as
>solanine, glycoside,dulcamarine to name a few. So we marveled at
>how these two small bodied birds could ingest these toxins and then
>fly off unaffected? See Oregon Birds 31(3):117.
>
>Later Mike
>
>********************************************************************
>Mike & MerryLynn Denny
>1354 S. E. Central Ave.
>College Place, WA 99324
>509.529.0080 (h)
>
>IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN BIRDING, YOU HAVEN'T LIVED!
>*******************************************************************
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Message: 20
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 07:38:34 -0800
From: "Ed Swan" <edswan at centurytel.net>
Subject: Re: [Tweeters] Vashon CBC needs Blake Is. and Kitsap help
To: "Michael Hobbs" <birdmarymoor at verizon.net>, "tweeters"
<tweeters at u.washington.edu>
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Michael Hobbs kindly pointed out that I put the incorrect date for the
Vashon CBC, the correct date is Sunday, December 31.
Also, the Christmas Bird Count info is now on the Vashon website
http://www.vashonaudubon.org/. The CBC checklist can be downloaded as a
PDF from the Events page and the wonderful 12.06 Bird Note show on the CBC
is linked from the home page.
Ed Swan
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Hobbs
To: Ed Swan
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Tweeters] Vashon CBC needs Blake Is. and Kitsap help
Ed - I thought the Vashon CBC was Sunday, December 31. That's what was
sent to me previously, and that's what I've had up on the WOS website.
== Michael Hobbs
== Washington Ornithological Society webmaster
== http://www.wos.org
== WOSWeb at wos.org
----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Swan
To: tweeters
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 2:16 PM
Subject: [Tweeters] Vashon CBC needs Blake Is. and Kitsap help
The Vashon CBC on December 29 still needs help with two great
territories. The Kitsap territory had a number of interesting birds
including a Ruffed Grouse last year. The Blake Island territory covers the
waters between Vashon and Blake Islands and the southern two-thirds of Blake
Island. We would need someone with access to a boat or kayak to cover this
area. This is a new territory never covered in the count but should get a
wide range of water and land birds.
Call Sue Trevathan at (206)463-7976 or email her at
sue.trevathan at centurytel.net. You can contact me at (206)463-7976 or
edswan at centurytel.net if you can't reach Sue.
Ed Swan
Vashon Island
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Message: 21
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 08:46:44 -0800
From: "Mary K." <cellobird at comcast.net>
Subject: [Tweeters] Lunchtime Hawk-watching
To: "'tweeters'" <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
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While I was out walking thru the Pioneer Square/Occidental Mall area in
Seattle during lunchtime on Thursday, I heard an unfamiliar bird call,
looked up into the bare trees, and spied an accipiter. It was pretty vocal
during the 10 or so minutes I stood and watched it. Couldn't figure out why
it was calling so much, didn't see another hawk. Also didn't see any
prey-size birds in the area!
Friday I went back with my little bins, and again found an accipiter. Got a
better look this time and am pretty sure it was an adult Cooper's Hawk.
Dark cap on the head, thick tarsus (tarsii?), and overall size were what I
based my ID on. Only thing was, its call sounded a bit high for a coop.
Anyway, the bird flew from the trees behind the Grand Central Bldg and alit
near a nest in a tree across from the Bank of Amerca. Turns out there was
an immature Cooper's Hawk sitting in the nest. I guess that was who the
adult was calling to. I saw several pigeon feathers stuck to the nest so
figure that may be where the birds go to tear up and eat whatever they've
caught??
The adult took off, the immature watched it intently for a while. I
couldn't find the adult but assume the imm. could see it.
A fun way to spend lunchtime! Next week I plan to head back to see if the
birds are hanging around, this time w/my decent bins and maybe my scope.
Y'all who work nearby may want to check out the Occidental Mall for hawks!
Good birding,
Mary
Mary E. Klein
Bremerton WA
Cellobird -AT- Comcast.net
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Message: 22
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 10:08:56 -0800
From: "Martha Jordan" <swanlady at drizzle.com>
Subject: [Tweeters] books-botany & birds
To: "Tweeters" <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
Message-ID: <001501c71bbd$1b8c0ac0$0201a8c0 at marthascomputer>
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Hello,
I cleaned out my bookshelf and have the following available for new
homes. Price: make a donation to The Trumpeter Swan Society and I am happy
to get these volumes to where they can be used again. All are in good
condition.
Waterfowl Ecology and Management: Selected Readings 1982 The Wildlife
Society 1,328 pages paperback
Arizona Flora by Kearney & Peebles 1964, U of Cal. press hardcover
Birds of Utah, Great Basin Naturalist Memoirs Number 1, 1976 lots of
photos paperback
Trees of the Great Basin, A Natural History by R. M. Lanner 1984
Lots of drawings and text paperback
Intermountain Flora, Vascular Plants of the Intermountain West, USA
Vol. One by Cronquist, Holmgren, et.al. 1972 hardcover
Ecology of Halophytes by R. Reimold and W. Queen hardcover
Academic Press
Contact me directly if you are interested.
Martha Jordan
425-787-0258
www.swansociety.org
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Message: 23
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 11:20:21 -0800
From: "Wayne C. Weber" <contopus at telus.net>
Subject: [Tweeters] RBA: KING EIDER at Semiahmoo Resort near Blaine
(Whatcom Co.)
To: "TWEETERS" <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
Message-ID: <004701c71bc7$1da76520$6500a8c0 at bc.hsia.telus.net>
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Birders,
I just learned of an immature male KING EIDER at the Semiahmoo
Resort near Blaine in Whatcom Co. The bird was found yesterday,
Dec. 8, at about 11 AM by Paul Woodcock and Stephen Frank
from Bellingham, and details posted on the WHATCOM BIRDS
group. The bird was seen again this morning by Paul and Nick Page.
The bird was reported to be "just outside the floats" at the Semiahmoo
Marina, which is within Drayton Harbor next to the Semiahmoo
Resort (i.e., inside the harbor, not in Semiahmoo Bay.
With luck, it will stay for a few days so that other birders can find it!
Good luck and good birding,
Wayne C. Weber
Delta, BC
contopus at telus.net
P.S. Frederick Sears got some very good photos of the bird this
morning, which he sent to the WHATCOM BIRDS group.
No question about the bird's ID.
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