The definition of "predatory bird" is built into the code and is very
specific so don't make the mistake of assuming a definition based on common
usage.

Kelly McAllister

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott R a y" <mryakima at gmail.com>
To: "Tweeters" <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 11:39 PM
Subject: [Tweeters] "Taking" of crows and magpies is currently legal in WA


> Washington State law allows the hunting of Crows. There is currently
> an open season between Oct 1 and Jan 31 each year. No bag or
> possession limit applies.
>
> Additionally, according to the WAC (232-12-005), crows and magpies may
> be taken any time, "...when found committing or about to commit
> depredations upon ornamental or shade trees, agricultural crops,
> livestock, or wildlife, or when concentrated in such numbers and
> manner as to constitute a health hazard or other nuisance provided
> that none of the birds, or their plumage, be offered for sale."
>
> And the WAC says, "All other predatory birds may be hunted throughout
> the year."
>
> There is no reference to Ravens or Jays in the RCW or WAC.
>
> Scott R a y
> Yakima, WA
>
>
>
> On 7/23/06, Kelly McAllister <mcallisters4 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Thanks to everyone who provided some thoughts on ravens. I was a bit
>> vague
>> about the legal case I was referring to. There was no question about the
>> fact that laws had been broken. Killing both crows and ravens was a
>> violation of state and federal laws (there was no crow season in
>> Washington
>> at the time). It was the penalty phase and lawyers were making appeals
>> concerning the seriousness of the infraction. In this phase, there is
>> considerable latitude to consider public resource values and community
>> values concerning the resource damage that had occurred. My response to
>> the
>> defense lawyer was likely not very helpful. I talked about the relative
>> rarity of ravens (at least, compared to crows) and their greater
>> association
>> with wilderness or rural settings. I think I might have suggested that
>> their
>> "mystique" made them of greater interest to many birders and naturalists.
>>
>> Anyway, I was simply curious what kinds of arguments might be raised
>> concerning the seriousness of someone killing crows illegally and whether
>> or
>> not there is a reasonable argument for a greater seriousness of the
>> infraction when ravens are killed.
>>
>> Kelly McAllister
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