Subject: [Tweeters] Further Info on "15 New Species...."
Date: Feb 18 19:06:52 2007
From: Brett Wolfe - m_lincolnii at yahoo.com


The 2nd table is quite interesting. Says that there is "100% Similarity" between Cinnamon Teal and Blue-winged Teal? Huh. Looking at characteristics, I would've put the Cinnamon Teal closer to a Northern Shoveler (blue wing patches, huge bills). All of the others seem about right though: Mallards, Black Duck & Mottled Duck; Western Grebe & Clark's Grebe; All of the gulls that no one can tell apart anyway (I keed, I keed); Red-naped & Red-breasted Sapsucker (their territorial drums are even quite similar); American & Northwestern Crow (some local crow experts really think there is too much hybridization and that there is only one crow species around here anymore); and the Townsends/Hermit Warbler one is a huge complex for hybridization. Doesn't surprise me that they any of these are closely related. I had always suspected an issue with the Teals, so that is the only real surprise to me out of the whole thing.

Any other birders have comments?

Brett A. Wolfe
Seattle, WA
m_lincolnii at yahoo.com

". KDB ." <buhrdz at hotmail.com> wrote:
Here ya go Scott and others:

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2007-02/ru-nbb021207.php

Check out the 2 charts especially.

Keith Brady
Olympia, WA

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