We don't need a wall on our southern border. We need a DMZ with towers.
Let wildlife cross. Shoot dead human invaders.
One application would bring the illegal immigration surge to a halt. We are
the only country in the world that takes pride in being raped by foreign
invaders...

How about back to birding???

Clarence
Cinebar, WA.

----- Original Message -----
From: "ravenintherain" <ccorax at blarg.net>
To: "Stewart Wechsler" <ecostewart at quidnunc.net>
Cc: "Dennis Paulson" <dennispaulson at comcast.net>; "Tweeters"
<tweeters at u.washington.edu>
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Tweeters] Re: Border Wall.


> Stewart Wechsler for president!
>
> Stewart Wechsler wrote:
>> The solution to that drug trafficking and associated problems is to
>> decriminalize the drugs putting the organized crime dealers out of
>> business, but the feds may never do that because the powerful "drug
>> lobby" might withhold their contributions to their campaigns I(or weild
>> their poser in other ways) and the Feds may not be able to fund future
>> Iran-Contra type operations.
>> Garbage is unsightly, but rarely a big problem for the wildlife. The
>> lizards, snakes, and spiders even use it as cover.
>> The barbed wire fences drove the Buffalo (as well as the Plains Indians)
>> into functional extinction. Let's not let more fences drive more species
>> into extinction or out of this country due to government fed paranoia
>> (and influential fence building contractors).
>> (Everything we do and say ((or fail to do/say)) is in one way or another
>> political to one degree or another. Anything that is in opposition to
>> those in power is always considered "political".) Advcating for wildlife
>> is always political.
>> Stewart
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> *From:* Jeff Gilligan [mailto:jeffgill at teleport.com]
>> *Sent:* Sunday, November 11, 2007 11:49 AM
>> *To:* Dennis Paulson; Tweeters
>> *Subject:* [Tweeters] Re: Border Wall.
>>
>>
>> My comments are not in regard to a possible wall in Texas. I bird
>> in Arizona with some regularity. Many birding areas there are now
>> trashed by illegal immigrants. Many parts of Buenos Aires NWR are
>> now rubbish heaps. Safety for those birding in even non-remote
>> areas is an increasing problem because of the narco ?traffickers.
>> An arroyo near Green Valley that I have birded for years is not
>> littered with empty back packs that were used by drug smugglers.
>> The remote trails in the Huachucas and Santa Rita Mountains are
>> regularly used by smugglers who want to avoid detection on the
>> highways. I know people Green Valley who say they have seen drug
>> transfers being overseen by persons brandishing AK-47s ? just off
>> the frontage road to the freeway.
>>
>> Jeff Gilligan
>> Portland/Nachotta, WA/Green Valley, AZ
>>
>> On 11/10/07 9:23 PM, "Dennis Paulson" <dennispaulson at comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I looked back at the No Texas Border Wall website and found
>> that dozens of tweeters have signed the petition. Thank you so
>> much!
>>
>> With the threat of terrorism paraded in front of us
>> unendingly, it will be very difficult for environmental
>> considerations to take precedence over "homeland security" in
>> this matter of the border wall. We can hope for one or more of
>> these alternatives:
>>
>> 1. Congress repeals or changes the Secure Fence Act of 2006
>> which allows DHS to build the wall.
>>
>>
>> 2. Congress repeals the 2005 Real ID Act.
>>
>>
>> 3. Enough folks cry loud enough that Congress pressures DHS to
>> stop.
>>
>>
>> 4. The constitutional challenge by several environmental
>> groups wins and strips DHS of its powers.
>>
>>
>> 5. No more funding is issued by Congress to finish the whole
>> wall.
>>
>> 6. The Borderlands Conservation and Security Act (HR 2593)
>> will mitigate some of the Secure Fence Act's most destructive
>> aspects. This has not been taken up by Congress yet, but our
>> representatives should be urged to do so. You can learn more
>> under "Take Action" on the website.
>>
>> Dennis
>>
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>> Dennis Paulson
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>> 206-528-1382
>> dennispaulson at comcast.net
>>
>>
>>
>>
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