New, and increasingly varied, interpretations about this bird on
Birdforum.net, here: http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=108730

Robert Pisano
Seattle, WA



On Mar 5, 2008, at 7:30 PM, vogelfreund at comcast.net wrote:

> Also, the large size of the breast spotting looks to be that of a
> juvenile Sharp-shinned, according to a couple of sources I just looked
> up. (Maybe this point has already been mentioned somewhere?)
>
> Phil Hotlen
> Bellingham, WA
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: Robert Pisano <pisano at nwlink.com>
>> Nancy,
>>
>> There's a guy in Sweden who knows a ridiculous amount about the
>> vagaries of the Sharpie/Coopers conundrum.
>>
>> May I forward your photos to him for an opinion?
>>
>> Robert Pisano
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 4, 2008, at 6:37 PM, Stewart Wechsler wrote:
>>
>>> Concerning Nancy's Accipiter I.D. question for this photo:
>>>
>>> http://www.nancywagnerphotography.com/id.html
>>>
>>> Though I would lean towards calling the Accipiter in the photo a
>>> Sharpie
>>> because of the apparent notch in the middle of the end of the tail
>>> and
>>> because the bird looks a bit slimmer than I think of a Coopers being,
>>> I have
>>> little confidence without getting something that indicates size or
>>> seeing
>>> the bird in flight from above or below. If the end of the tail is
>>> somewhat
>>> rounded in flight and is the size of a crow or close to that size I
>>> would
>>> call it a Coopers. If the tail squared to notched at the end and
>>> apparently
>>> smaller than a crow, I would call it a Sharpie. I don't know how
>>> reliable
>>> the tail shape alone is while perched. I presume that the tail
>>> feathers
>>> could be spread while perching to give it the appearance of being
>>> notched
>>> without showing a notch from above or below in flight. Though I
>>> presume
>>> that there are other subtle distinctions, these are the only ones I
>>> currently use to distinguish these species.
>>>
>>> -Stewart
>>>
>>> Stewart Wechsler
>>> Ecological Consulting
>>> West Seattle
>>> 206 932-7225
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>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message--
>>> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 4:04 PM
>>> To: tweeters at u.washington.edu
>>> Subject: [Tweeters] Debate continues on sharpie vs cooper with 1 more
>>> photo
>>>
>>>
>>> Here's one more photo of a new angle of the possible sharpie or
>>> cooper's
>>> (second link). What I wouldn't have given to have it turn
>>> around...instead,
>>> the one behavior I did see was that it flew down to the ground, and I
>>> couldn't see it anymore, even after going over to look.
>>>
>>> http://www.nancywagnerphotography.com/id.html
>>>
>>> http://www.nancywagnerphotography.com/id2.html
>>>
>>> Hope this helps id it and thanks again!
>>>
>>> Nancy Wagner
>>> Bothell, WA
>>> Nancy at nancywagnerphotography.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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