Jeff,
Your point is well taken.
Perhaps it's the question of "is this species a wild sustainable population? Or, one that requires human intervention through feeding or population replacement to sustain?". On the east side chuckers are a wild population by several generations. On the wet west side, they tend to die out in the winter rains, and predators that feed on the ground nesting game bird species. Introduced species that cannot survive on their own are hardly "wild". These geese seem to be doing pretty well on their own, so I'd say they are under the "wild" listing.

Clarence C. Lupo
Onalaska, WA.


---- Jeffjendro at aol.com wrote:
> Why is it that an established population of feral Greylag Geese is
> considered by most to be a non-listable bird, whereas a Ring-necked Pheasant, an
> introduced species and possibly farm raised and released for the hunter's pleasure
> is listable? Likewise the previous discussion about Chukars - east side
> listable, west side not listable. Both sides introduced, but apparently those
> on the west side not released long enough ago to be a viable population? In a
> similar situation the Monk Parakeets at Yacolt aren't on the Washington bird
> list or the Skamania Count list, but they seem to be a pretty viable
> population -- viable enough to require human intervention to eliminate them before
> the become a "pest"?
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> Jeff Jendro
> Longview, WA
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