We have at least two Barred Owls resident in our ravine off Juanita Drive &
Holmes Point Drive in Kirkland. They have made matting calls. Hopefully
we'll see results (in January, right?) They usually respond to our "Barred
Owl" call in our Bird Book and we get to see them swooping around & hanging
out in the trees. So fun! We're novice birders and just delighted to find
you!
Suzanne
Suzanne Bachelor, CPC
Professional Life Coach
phone: 425.821.3944
coachsuz at streamtree.com
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Today's Topics:
1. Grays Harbor CBC date (Dianna Moore)
2. help with yard bird ID (craig_marie at netzero.net)
3. Kent & Des Moines, 10-23 (Lynn & Carol Schulz)
4. Birding (photography) near Kennewick this weekend
(Bob Kothenbeutel)
5. Kent Ponds, Short-eared Owl (Guy McWethy)
6. Marymoor Park Report (Redmond, King Co., WA) 2008-10-23
(Michael Hobbs)
7. Broad-wings? (Guttman,Burton)
8. Kent & Des Moines Oct 23 (Lynn & Carol Schulz)
9. Boreal Owl , Spruce Grouse, and White-winged Crossbills west
of Yakima-18 October (Andy Stepniewski)
10. Barred Owl nesting, Portland vicinity (Kelly McAllister)
11. mystery birds, rare cockatoo species rediscovered,
DonorsChoose classrooms (links) (Devorah Bennu)
12. Paul Bannick at REI last night (vickibiltz at comcast.net)
13. re: Broad-wings (Dianna Moore)
14. correct url for Paul Bannicks website & Martyn Stewarts link
(vickibiltz at comcast.net)
15. Of Broad-wings & Goshawks (. KDB .)
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Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:29:21 -0700
From: "Dianna Moore" <dlmoor2 at coastaccess.com>
Subject: [Tweeters] Grays Harbor CBC date
To: <Tweeters at u.washington.edu>
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Hi all..The Grays Harbor CBC will be held on Saturday, Dec. 27th. All are
welcome to join us..and if you would like to lead an area please contact me,
Dianna Moore
Ocean Shores, Wa.
dlmoor2 at coastaccess.com
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Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:46:47 GMT
From: "craig_marie at netzero.net" <craig_marie at netzero.net>
Subject: [Tweeters] help with yard bird ID
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Tweeters,
Please help ID this bird. I think it is a juvenile golden-crowned sparrow,
but not quite sure. This bird has been in my yard every day since Saturday
10/18/08.
He feeds only on the ground, as he is too big for my feeders.
THANKS in advance.
http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o87/craig_marie/
I love to share the world with birds and people who love birds!
Marie
Highlands of Renton
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:58:09 -0700
From: "Lynn & Carol Schulz" <linusq at worldnet.att.net>
Subject: [Tweeters] Kent & Des Moines, 10-23
To: "Tweeters" <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
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Hi Tweets:
This morning in Des Moines there were many Robins flying around and acting
drunk.
Lots of berries and fruits to eat. We didn't see any robins for awhile
there in September.
In one tree today, I saw 16 Cedar Waxwings, and a few Yellow-rumped
Warblers, Audubon race. Some warblers were dark and dull, but one had quite
a bit of yellow on it.
This afternoon at about 3:30 I drove past Boeing Ponds, and it looked quiet.
But in the weedy field across the street there were over 250 Cackling Geese.
I saw a few Greater Wht-fronted Geese hunkered down in the weeds, so I drove
around to the back of the field, and walked up on the berm. In the back of
the field I counted 15 Greater Wht-fronted Geese, and one SNOW GOOSE.
Yours, Carol Schulz
Des Moines, WA
linusq at att.net
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:06:47 -0700
From: "Bob Kothenbeutel" <viper.bob at verizon.net>
Subject: [Tweeters] Birding (photography) near Kennewick this weekend
To: <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
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I'm going to be in Kennewick this weekend and would like to know of any hot
spots for getting photos of birds - especially hawks and owls but also
anything else. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I will provide my cell
number for anyone with specific info or "hot leads".
Thanks
Bob Kothenbeutel
Woodinville
viperDOTbobATverizonDOTnet
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:07:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: Guy McWethy <lguy_mcw at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Tweeters] Kent Ponds, Short-eared Owl
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Hey Tweets,
swung by the Kent ponds this evening, right at dusk.
Located a Short-eared Owl, flying across the face of a gorgeous Mount
Rainier lit by Alpenglow!
A couple of N. Harriers, and about 500 American Crows as well.
Guy McWethy
Renton, WA
mailto: lguy_mcw at yahoo.com
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:09:03 -0700
From: "Michael Hobbs" <birdmarymoor at verizon.net>
Subject: [Tweeters] Marymoor Park Report (Redmond, King Co., WA)
2008-10-23
To: "Tweeters \(E-mail\)" <TWEETERS at u.washington.edu>
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Tweets - Asside from some early drizzle that cleared fairly quickly, it was
a delightful day at Marymoor today. We were about a dozen people, and we
had good birds intermittently all day. The rest of the time Matt and I
filled with atrocious puns. What could be better.
Highlights:
SNOW GOOSE One flew overhead in a flock of Canadas
D.-c. Cormorant First of Fall
Barn Owl Scott had one at 6:30 a.m.
SHORT-EARED OWL We had two in the East Meadow at 7:25
Pileated Woodpecker I heard one near the mansion
HORNED LARK 1 at Compost Piles, flew south
American Pipit More than 1, grass fields, various times
Townsend's Warbler Great looks in Ash Tree, Dog Meadow
Western Meadowlark Three from the Compost Piles, 1 singing
We were due to meet at 7:30. At 7:15, Matt, Brian, and I gave up on trying
for Scott's Barn Owl. I decided to walk back along the grass trail on the
east edge of the East Meadow. As I neared the north end, a SHORT-EARED OWL
flushed from the tall grass and glided to the northeast. Maybe one or two
minutes later, a second SEOW came flying in from the *northwest* carrying
some kind of fairly large rodent. It flew right over Brian, Matt, and
Scott, flew past me, and landed about where the first owl had been.
Duck numbers were absurdly low. By the time we got to the Rowing Club, we'd
seen a total of 5 MALLARDS. That's it. The lake was empty - not even a
coot. From the Rowing Club dock, though, we found 3 GADWALL, and walking
back past the ponds, Sharon spotted a male HOODED MERGANSER, thus tripling
our species count for ducks. There were also 4-5 AMERICAN COOTS in the
slough.
South of the windmill, we watched a juvenile RED-TAILED HAWK drop out of a
tree and catch some very small prey which it ate in 1 bite before returning
to the tree.
Brian and I went to the private cabana afterwards for a last scan of the
lake. There had been Pied-billed Grebe out there, but we'd also seen what
looked like Western Grebe, but we'd been unable to confirm. From the
cabana, we saw several WEGR and about the same number of Horned Grebe.
For the day, 62 species.
== Michael Hobbs
== Kirkland, WA
== http://www.marymoor.org/birding.htm
== http://www.marymoor.org/BirdBlog.htm
== birdmarymoor at verizon.net
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 21:58:15 -0700
From: "Guttman,Burton" <GuttmanB at evergreen.edu>
Subject: [Tweeters] Broad-wings?
To: <Tweeters at u.washington.edu>
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A birding friend here in Olympia has said that he's seen a couple of
Broad-winged Hawks (at least, hawks that are most likely to be Broad-wings)
in this area over the last several years. I looked up the status of the
species in Hal Opperman's Birder's Guide to Washington, which cites a few
observations in western Washington in the fall. It also makes the
intriguing suggestion that there might be a "largely undetected southward
migration through Western Washington." Does anyone know of observations of
Broad-wings that might support that speculation?
Cheers,
Burt
Burt Guttman
The Evergreen State College
Olympia, WA 98505 guttmanb at evergreen.edu
<mailto:guttmanb at evergreen.edu>
Home: 7334 Holmes Island Road S. E., Olympia, 98503
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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 05:23:54 -0700
From: "Lynn & Carol Schulz" <linusq at worldnet.att.net>
Subject: [Tweeters] Kent & Des Moines Oct 23
To: "Tweeters" <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
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Hi Tweets:
I tried to send this to Tweets yesterday, but I don't think it was posted to
the list. Here is my msg again. Sorry if it's a repeat.
Yours, Carol Schulz
Hi Tweets:
This morning, Thurs, Oct 23 in Des Moines there were many Robins flying
around and acting drunk.
Lots of berries and fruits to eat. We didn't see any robins for awhile
there in September.
In one tree today, Oct 23, I saw 16 Cedar Waxwings, and a few Yellow-rumped
Warblers, Audubon's race. Some warblers were dark and dull, but one had
quite a bit of yellow on it.
This afternoon, 10-23-08 at about 3:30 I drove past Boeing Ponds, and it
looked quiet. But in the weedy field across the street there were over 250
Cackling Geese. I saw a few Greater Wht-fronted Geese hunkered down in the
weeds, so I drove around to the back of the field, and walked up on the
berm. In the back of the field I counted 15 Greater Wht-fronted Geese, and
one SNOW GOOSE.
Yours, Carol Schulz
Des Moines, WA
linusq at att.net
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 07:42:16 -0700
From: "Andy Stepniewski" <steppie at nwinfo.net>
Subject: [Tweeters] Boreal Owl , Spruce Grouse, and White-winged
Crossbills west of Yakima-18 October
To: "TWEETERS" <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
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BOREAL OWL, SPRUCE GROUSE, AND WHITE-WINGED CROSSBILL IN THE AHTANUM
18-19 OCTOBER 2008
Tweeters,
We finally blundered into a Spruce Grouse (after six hikes this summer and
fall in this part of the Cascades) on logging roads in the North Fork
Ahtanum Creek. Go west from Yakima on Ahtanum Road to Tampico. Then right 10
miles to the end of the pavement. From here go right (west) on North Fork
Ahtanum Road. Then to a road bearing left 1 mile (past) west of the Gray
Rock Trail trailhead. Cross the creek on the stout bridge. Go left and
uphill and search the roads in this area. It was a beautiful male (Michael
Schroeder, looking at the photos, said a 1st-year male) gathering grit on a
logging road in the Cougar Flats area. On this day-long hike we also spotted
two Pileated Woodpeckers in the Western Larches, now beautifully golden.
Otherwise, there were relatively few birds on our trek though we found
more-than-usual numbers of Varied Thrushes (15). Sooty Grouse have suddenly
"appeared;" we're not sure how they eluded us on our other trips in the
area. We flushed eight all in regenerating clearcuts or at the rocky base of
talus slopes.
The night of the 18th we camped at Clover Flats Campground on the upper
Middle Fork of the Ahtanum. After dinner we easily called in a Boreal Owl as
it became dark. It was a clear and cold starry night, and very cold!
The following morning we awoke we before dawn and walked the frozen meadow
edge at Clover Flats, kind of hoping for a Great Gray Owl (yes I know a LONG
shot). We saw nor heard any owls, but two small groups of White-winged
Crossbills reveal this waif from the North Country is still feasting on the
Engelmann Spruce seeds in the tall trees there.
Species list:
Cooper's Hawk - 1
Red-tailed Hawk - 1
SPRUCE GROUSE - 1
Sooty Grouse - 8
BOREAL OWL - 1
Northern Flicker - 1
Pileated Woodpecker - 2
Gray Jay - 3
Steller's Jay - 2
Clark's Nutcracker - 1
Common Raven - 5
Black-capped Chickadee - 3 (4,000 feet elevation on Middle Fork in aspens)
Mountain Chickadee - 10 (A couple on hike, balance as above) Red-breasted
Nuthatch - 6 (One on hike, balance as above) Brown Creeper - 2 Winter Wren -
1 Golden-crowned Kinglet - 20 (15 on hike, balance as above) American Robin
- 1 Varied Thrush - 12 Red Crossbill - 2 WHITE-WINGED CROSSBILL - 10
Andy and Ellen Stepniewski
Wapato WA
steppie at nwinfo.net
...
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:13:12 -0700
From: "Kelly McAllister" <mcallisters4 at comcast.net>
Subject: [Tweeters] Barred Owl nesting, Portland vicinity
To: <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
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Lori Hennings, biologist for Portland Metro, mentioned that Barred Owls are
now nesting in one of the parks in the Portland area. I'm not sure if this
is news. They sure seem to have become common in the Puget Sound lowlands.
My wife brought home the remains of one she found dead on the horse trail
that follows the perimeter of our suburban neighborhood north of Olympia.
Seems they are becoming among the more common species of road kill.
Kelly McAllister
Olympia, Washington
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:28:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: Devorah Bennu <birdologist at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Tweeters] mystery birds, rare cockatoo species rediscovered,
DonorsChoose classrooms (links)
To: tweeters at u.washington.edu
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Hello tweeties,
the very mysterious mystery bird was, as i promised, identifiable. in this
case, the bird was a Worm-eating Warbler, Helmitheros vermivorus;
http://scienceblogs.com/grrlscientist/2008/10/todays_mystery_bird_for_you_to
_53.php
Be sure to return to that entry to read Rick's analysis regarding how to
identify this (and other) species, using just a few birdy-bits.
Thanks to photographer, Richard Ditch, here's today's mystery bird;
http://scienceblogs.com/grrlscientist/2008/10/todays_mystery_bird_for_you_to
_44.php
The Indonesian Parrot Project sent an expedition to the remote Indonesian
island archipelago in the Java Sea to search for the Masakambing (Abbott's)
yellow-crested cockatoo, Cacatua sulphurea abbotti -- and they found it!
Unfortunately, there are apparently only ten individuals left, but they are
already working hard to preserve this species of "the world's rarest
parrot." you can read more about their efforts here;
http://scienceblogs.com/grrlscientist/2008/10/endangered_cockatoo_species_re
.php
In a telephone conversation yesterday with Bonnie Zimmermann, the VP of the
Indonesian Parrot Project, I learned a lot more about this project and there
is plenty more to talk about with regards to this work. As a result, I will
be writing more about their work in the near future, so there will be more
announcements from me regarding the many activities of this very important
all-volunteer organization!
And last, but not least, I have good news regarding the DonorsChoose
Challenges: Seed media Group announced that they are adding matching funds
to all the ScienceBloggers' the DonorsChoose Challenges, and they also have
plenty of prize drawings available for everyone who has donated or will
donate to the cause of improving the quality of the educational experiences
for America's children;
http://scienceblogs.com/grrlscientist/2008/10/seed_media_group_donates_match
.php
We have only one week left in our DonorsChoose fund-raising efforts, so be
sure to donate something, even if it's only one dollar, to help educate our
nation's children (my particular "Challenge" focuses on poor children
throughout the nation to learn about science).
cheers,
GrrlScientist
Devorah
http://scienceblogs.com/grrlscientist/
Roosting high up a tree somewhere in Central Park, NYC
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:40:55 +0000
From: vickibiltz at comcast.net
Subject: [Tweeters] Paul Bannick at REI last night
To: tweeters at u.washington.edu
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omcast.net>
Hi Everyone,
I am sorry for anyone who wanted to make it to REI last night, for the
official unveiling of The Owl And The Woodpecker, but was unable to. The
whole event was absolutely wonderful, and the room was packed. My husband
Mark, counted about 200 people in the room where the slide show and book
signing took place. We got there early, but forgot to save seats. I was
concerned because at 6:30, there were just not that many people there. But
when we went back into the room at about 6:50, it was packed. Fortunately
there were two empty seats front and center, so we grabbed them.
Not only is Paul a great photographer, and an artist with pen in hand, he
is an eloquent speaker.
What really added to the slide show, was the recordings that played during
the presentation. Martyn Stewart did a great job on all of these recordings.
I really enjoy listening to his CD (on my ipod) while walking my
dogs......It really distracts from the rather dull traffic sounds in Bonney
Lake, and a few times I forget I am listening to it, and stop to see where
is that bird??? (the recordings have a great natural background, so you feel
you are in the woods, or in the forest, wherever the calls happen to be
coming from, you can even work on naming the bird calls in the background).
The people at BirdNote told me Paul's calender will be out in a couple more
weeks. I cannot wait to see what is inside, the last two were fantastic!
Have a great weekend, and check out the website below if you are interested
in purchasing this great book!
http://www.paulbannick.com/index.html
The website appears to be down at the moment, but maybe try in a little
while, and it should come back up....or you can contact Paul via email......
paul.bannick at gmail.com
Vicki Biltz
vickibiltz at msn.com
Bonney Lake Wa 98391
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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:16:08 -0700
From: "Dianna Moore" <dlmoor2 at coastaccess.com>
Subject: [Tweeters] re: Broad-wings
To: <Tweeters at u.washington.edu>
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If there were a migrating population of broad-wings I would think that the
HawkWatch teams would find some evidence of their presence. There are a few
but "not enough to get excited about", as the saying goes..at least from the
Chelan site. Now if you want to see results, check out the Goshute Mtn site!
http://www.hawkwatch.org/home/index.php?option=com_content
<http://www.hawkwatch.org/home/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=147
&Itemid=51> &task=view&id=147&Itemid=51
Dianna Moore
Ocean Shores, Wa.
dlmoor2 at coastaccess.com
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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:28:19 +0000
From: vickibiltz at comcast.net
Subject: [Tweeters] correct url for Paul Bannicks website & Martyn
Stewarts link
To: tweeters at u.washington.edu
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Hi,
I discovered I put a wrong url on Tweets a few minutes ago, here is the
correct one!
www.paulbannick.com
I am also adding Martyn Stewarts url as well, it is fun just to browse
around on it!
http://www.naturesound.org/index.html
take a moment and check these out!
Vicki Biltz
vickibiltz at msn.com
Bonney Lake Wa
98391
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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:15:28 -0700
From: ". KDB ." <buhrdz at hotmail.com>
Subject: [Tweeters] Of Broad-wings & Goshawks
To: "tweeters at u.washington.edu" <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
Message-ID: <BLU142-W166B8E21FF53E7C53AA497DC2B0 at phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hello, I believe the Chelan Ridge site has reported a steady but sparse
trickle of Broad-wings for a number of years now. If memory serves me
correctly, anywhere from 2-8 or so a season with the best dates being
between 11 Sept thru 18 Sept or so.
I remember 2 individuals being reported over the past 2 or 3 years from
Washtucna, one from Pend Oreille County and one by Patrick S. at Fircrest.
Seems like just a bit more than random errant birds to me.
On another topic, there was a post several weeks ago about pictures of
an/the Anacortes Goshawk.
The post said e-mail for pics. I did, but never received a response. Did
anybody?
Would love to see them, otherwise I would hate for this to be one of those
things where years later people refer to the pics as proof, even though they
never surfaced.
Keith Brady
Olympia, WA
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