Subject: [Tweeters] killing barred owls to save spotted owls
Date: Dec 10 14:26:48 2009
From: Jim Greaves - lbviman at blackfoot.net


Not sure what the problem is. At every turn someone is trying to stop
evolution or ecological processes by trying to "retain" certain
"values" of some small part of the larger environment, "for the
birds" or other wildlife taxa. Either the Spotted Owl is worth
protecting, or it isn't. Predatory/raptorial species or no better or
worse than crows and other egg and nestling eaters. Barred Owls are
larger and more aggressive than Spotted Owls, and apparently adapting
to human-occupied areas "better". Crows, Starlings, Pigeons,
Cormorants, etc, are all being positively impacted by our
agricultural and urban environments to the detriment of native
(endemic) species and our own food production, and in some areas are
being aggressively controlled for OUR benefit. Why not control
adverse elements for Spotted Owls? The entire world is now like a
zoo, and pests in zoos must be controlled if we are to have a safe
zoo, or, in the "real world", retain "bio-diversity". Get over it. -
Jim Greaves, Thompson Falls MT

At 01:00 PM 12/10/2009, tweeters-request at mailman2.u.washington.edu wrote:
>Message: 13
>Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:43:12 -0800
>From: "JO ANN WALDRON" <joaw9 at verizon.net>
>Subject: [Tweeters] RFI killing barred owls to save spotted owls in
> Cle Elum area
>To: "'Tweeters'" <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
>Message-ID: <EDB75CAD71BE4F50953877C7B8FB9CE7 at toshibauser>
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>Tweeters -
>
>I read a disturbing article this morning In CBS news. Does anyone in the
>know have more information to impart on the subject? I am curious to hear
>what knowledgeable Tweeters have to say about killing one to save the
>other.
>http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/12/10/national/main5962417.shtml?tag=cbsnewsSectionContent.1
>
>
>Jo Waldron
>Edmonds, WA
>Joaw9 at verizon.net