Subject: [Tweeters] Re: Red Fox
Date: Jul 19 18:59:07 2009
From: RONALD LOUDERBACK - res0y3oz at

We took photos of native Red Fox--silver color with some red--at Mt. Rainier
in the picnic area. Photos were taken through the windshield in 2005. Our
small dogs were going banannas barking & bouncing against the windows which
we were trying to roll up. This fox had the oval pupils and face of a fox
but it was taller and larger than European Red Fox. The park ranger said
that they were trying to relocate them because they were becoming a pest.
It was very bold and walked calmly toward the car passing within a couple of
feet of it. Photos are at Go to "sets" on
the right side of the page, click "more sets" at the bottom and then on
Ron & Carole Louderback
Kennewick WA
"If there is a mark of perfection, it is simply that it can tolerate the
imperfections of others. It is able to adjust. It becomes all things to
all men. "
Fenelon, 17th century
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Purcell" <kevinpurcell at>
To: "Tweeters" <tweeters at>
Cc: "Kevin Purcell" <kevinpurcell at>
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Tweeters] Re: Red Fox

> That said ... after I hit the send button I found this ... so a follow up
> post.
> <
> >
> A automatic photo of a (supposed) Cascade Red Fox taken on Jun 24, 2009
> on Mt Adams. Does look different from the usual Red Fox.
> They also have photo's of black and red morph Foxes
> <
> >
> There are other photos on the blog.
> The ID seems to be based on location (it's in the mountains).
> On Jul 19, 2009, at 4:28 PM, Kevin Purcell wrote:
>> The authors are very skeptical that Vulpes vulpes cascadiensis (or
>> Vulpes fulva cascadiensis depending on your taxonomy!) still exists as a
>> derivative of the original native boreal Red Foxes.
>> Has anyone here personally seen a Red Fox they believe was a
>> cascadiensis?
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> Kevin Purcell
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