Geoff, Bob, Will , Tweeters!

Thank you for identifying the hawk in the commercial as an Auger Hawk,
native to Africa. My mistake was jumping to conclusions when I saw the red
tail! I have since consulted my "Raptors of the World" and an Auger Hawk it
is!

Good Birding!

Hans Feddern
Twin Lakes/Fedseral Way, Wa.
thefedderns at gmail.com

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Bob Sundstrom <ixoreus at scattercreek.com>wrote:

> Tweeters,
>
> If you'd like to know a bit more about the Auger Hawk/Buzzard, here is a
> BirdNote program on this raptor that I wrote a few years ago:
> http://www.birdnote.org/birdnote.cfm?id=868
> The Seattle Seahawks use an Auger Hawk as their mascot, and it does have a
> conspicuous reddish brown tail, like the familiar North American Red-tailed
> Hawk. If you Google Auger Buzzard, you can even find links to vendors that
> provide them for movie makers.
>
> Bob Sundstrom
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Geoff <Snowulf at myrthwood.com>
> *To:* tweeters at u.washington.edu
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 18, 2010 1:29 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Tweeters] Odd Red-Tailed Hawk in TV Commercials
>
> I haven?t seen the commercial, but I can assure you that is not a
> redtail. Its an African augar buzzard (or augar hawk). I have seen a bunch
> of commercial and Hollywood video work that have used them.
>
>
>
> Right now the USFWS has a major beef with any raptors protected by the
> Migratory Bird Treaty Act being used for any commercial reasons, so video
> work involving raptors must either be done outside of the US or use exotics
> that are not protected by the MBTA.
>
>
>
> Certainly it?s a good thing to keep people from blasting redtails to
> decorate hats, but I believe they are being ridiculous to draw the line
> where they are. There are plenty of MBTA birds in captivity because of
> injury, or because they were captive bred or other reasons. Putting them in
> front of a camera HELPS the wild birds, it dosnt hurt them.
>
>
>
> Geoff Hirschi
>
> Snohomish, Wa
>
>
>
> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:27:45 -0700
>
> From: Hans-Joachim Feddern <thefedderns at gmail.com>
>
> Subject: [Tweeters] Odd Red-Tailed Hawk in TV Commercials
>
> To: Tweeters <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
>
> Message-ID:
>
> <8c3d3c131003172127y2789ed93p97fa1ea18af5419a at mail.gmail.com>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
>
> Has anyone seen the Farmers Insurance commercial with an odd black and
>
> white, but obvious Red-Tailed Hawk? It also features a long lens
>
> Photographer setting up and a P&S guy, reminding me of the recent
>
> photographic gear discussion! Oh, no sides taken by me! Let us not talk
>
> about it again!
>
>
>
> Hans Feddern
>
> Twin Lakes/Federal Way,WA.
>
> the fedderns at gmail.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> Tweeters mailing list
> Tweeters at u.washington.edu
> http://mailman2.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Tweeters mailing list
> Tweeters at u.washington.edu
> http://mailman2.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://mailman1.u.washington.edu/pipermail/tweeters/attachments/20100318/db7e0e2c/attachment.htm