Kelly,

To elaborate on what you said about habitat: When I lived in the San
Francisco Bay Area a long time ago, I used to hike up Mt. Tamalpais in
Marin County from time to time. Tamalpais is about 2,600' above sea
level. The south side, which gets more sun, is brushy chaparral
habitat. The shady north side is forested. Consequently, there were
Scrub Jays on the south side and Steller's Jays on the north side, and
hardly ever would you see Scrub and Steller's together.

Barry Ulman

On Nov 10, 2010, at 6:15 PM, Kelly McAllister wrote:

> It might be safe to say, and I know I'll be corrected if I'm off, that
> the
> Steller's Jays are less of a discouragement than the habitat
> conditions that
> are really good for Steller's Jays. I'm thinking of conifer-dominated
> habitats. In my experience, Scrub Jays are more often associated with
> urban,
> residential, and relatively open deciduous forest conditions. I see or
> hear
> a Scrub Jay in my neighborhood occasionally but the matrix where I
> live is
> some pretty dense forest, mixed conifer-deciduous trees. I don't think
> it's
> ideal Scrub Jay habitat. Cinebar would seem to be similar to my
> neighbor,
> probably even more dominated by dense conifer forest.
>
> Kelly McAllister
> Olympia
>