Comparing a 5,000 foot elevation in Arizona and Washington is like comparing apples and oranges or trogons with Spruce Grouse. A better comparison would be with the vegetative zones being used by Spotted Owls. At about the turn of the twentieth century C.Hart Merriam was doing plant studies in Arizona, and came to the realization that the vegetation change in every 1,000 feet gain in elevation was equivalent to a traveling 300 miles north. In the Chiricahua Mountains driving from the grasslands and mesquite habitat at Portal to Rustler Park with it's Engelmann Spruce forest is equal to traveling 1,500 miles north in latitude.

Wilson Cady
Skamania County, WA

















Wilson Cady
Washougal, WA


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From: vogelfreund at comcast.net
To: Roger Moyer <rogermoyer1 at hotmail.com>
Cc: tweeters <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: [Tweeters] Spotted Owl Question
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 07:15:30 +0000 (UTC)

There was a staked out (I guess you could say) Spotted Owl in McClure Canyon when I was there (1970, etc). I didn't actually see it in thru the thick underbrush, but it answered my attemt to hoot. I don't know the elevation, but it must be around 5,000 feet or (probably) a bit higher. The flag pole on post is supposedly exactly at 5,000 feet. Separately, a vociferous male was sounding off near the Rustler Park campground in the Chirichauas. That is in the pine belt, although some oaks were also there, if I recall. It depends on the aspect or side of the mountain as to what the forest consists of. The cool NE slope has conifers extending lower than on the hot sunny side. I have some old National Forest maps that show Spotted Owl Habitat in the North Cascades (doesn't mean the owls are actually there). And the habitat shown is in high valleys and forested ridges.

Phil Hotlen
Bellingham, WA
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Moyer" <rogermoyer1 at hotmail.com>
To: "tweeters" <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
Sent: Sunday, October 3, 2010 8:11:08 AM
Subject: [Tweeters] Spotted Owl Question

A question for the Spotted Owl experts. For those of you who have made the pilgrimage to Ft. Hauchuca to see the Spotted Owl if you know the elevation of the area you know the canyon is around 5500 to 6000 ft. above sea level. Know in this is the Mexican Sub-species and knowing this is much further south than here how high and elevation do our spotted owls go?

Roger Moyer
Chehalis, WA
rogermoyer1 at hotmail.com


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