Subject: [Tweeters] FYI - Bothell Harris's Sparrow Complaint
Date: Apr 21 17:25:29 2011
From: ihaterude birders - ihaterudebirders at gmail.com


Overblown? Do you want to know what is overblown Ms. Wieland? The sheer
number of rude bird photographers I have encountered since the end of last
year. My post wasn't "overreacting to one interaction that didn't go quite
the way expected", it was a response to consistent behavior that was capped
with yet another jewel of person I ran in to yesterday. If these people
don't have the natural human instinct to internally police their behavior in
a public place, they need to be told they are acting this way. Obviously
these people are not very social or perhaps not social with people they
consider to be non-birders.

If you read through my post again, you will see I am not asking for very
much. How can asking fellow people to act with decency be overblown? Is
that what society has become, or is this some specific behavior that I can
enjoy with people who fancy themselves birders? Is it not sad that I had to
go through the trouble of finding a blog, finding this messaging thread,
creating a gmail account and signing to the thread to post this? Is it
overblown to ask human beings who have been consistently (not once as you
suggest) acting like there is something more important to their task than
being simply kind to others to be kind to others?

What is ridiculous about this is that I have been criticized here and in my
gmail for pointing out how rude these people have been.

Thanks for proving my point

p.s. Ms. Riddell, who are you to judge what is valid and appropriate. The
last time I checked we all had the right to free speech. Go ahead and beg
for my id to be removed. I hope you are successful and you are able to get
my posts removed as well. Erase all this and make it like it never
happened. This is what the Nazis were up to, trying to destroy books and
silence those who would have a voice with a different opinion than theirs.
The thing is, that is not what I believe this country is about. It is true
that I signed up with an anonymous email address. This was due to me having
some fear that birders in general may be as insensitive as I have seen them
in person. You have all proved to me that I made the right decision in
doing so.

It cracks me up you titled your post Tweeters Etiquette and Rules. You want
to try to enforce these in these postings while ignoring basic human
interaction etiquette? Is it more about the rules then? I wouldn't even be
sending to this mailing list if people on this trail were simply polite and
I wouldn't be replying to these postings if the people on this mailing list
had done the same.

I hope you all have a good look in the mirror. Ms. Wieland was the the only
person who has yet to show any reflection on this and even that was short
lived. It must be hard to look at yourselves with even the faintest idea of
what some of you look like to the public at large. Stop jeering at people
and ordering them around because they are bothering you and maybe you won't
have them seeking out your mailing lists at all.

I have been consistent in asking for decency. I am still not seeing much of
that.
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