I agree that this thread was beat to death a few months ago. No one likes a rude person be it a birder or any type of person. Furthermore I don't know why the people with their at ^$#* lens are being singled out. I wish I had the money to afford the equipment. I would love to take up photography but don't have the resources. What is the difference between these lenses and a scope. It is big and takes up just as much room and I like to drag it around at times. The principal is the same here. So lets stop castigating our photographer friends who are fortunate enough to be able to enjoy their hobby. Off my midsized horse and my $0.02 worth.

Roger Moyer
Chehalis, WA
rogermoyer1 at hotmail.com

To: tweeters at u.washington.edu
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 23:54:37 -0400
From: cgluckman at aol.com
Subject: [Tweeters] big lens photographers, again




Sadly, it seems that only a few months ago there was a
thread about big lens photographers and now we start again. First, let me say
I?ve been a birder for over 40 years and big lens bird photographer for much
less. I have known a few rude photographers and a few rude birders and don?t
like either very much. I also don?t like rude dog owners who purposefully
release their animals to run after birds. In fact, I really don?t like rude
people of any sort. Most of us don?t. The truth is that the vast majority of
birders, bird photographers and dog owners are nice people who are fair and
considerate of those around them, and it is never right to assume that if one
is rude they all are.







That having been said, I have felt since reading the
previous thread about &)^$%#^ lens photographers that there is room for
improvement that needs to be considered and understood better by those of us
who photograph birds. In that regard, a few of us have started exporing the
possibility of a bird photography symposium some time in the fall that will
include as one of its topics a discussion on how photographers should comport
themselves around birds and birders with an eye toward eliminating as many of
these conflicts as possible while still allowing us to continue our hobbies or
professions and maintain a unified front for the protection of birds and their
habitat.







It is our hope that the symposium will encourage broad
participation and include lots of information on other topics of interest to
all levels of bird photographers. We did not expect to make this information
public until we were a bit further down the road, but in light of the
appearance of this thread again, I felt it was important to let the community
know that plans are in the works to publicly explore some of these conflicts so
that maybe the need to rehash this on Tweeters would be reduced for now. I?ll
be happy to consider any thoughts you might have on this symposium and come
back with more specific information when the plans are closer to fruition.








David Gluckman

811 22nd St.

Pt. Townsend, WA 98368

360 379-0360


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