Subject: [Tweeters] more viti rocks map trivia
Date: Aug 26 17:21:37 2011
From: Rolan Nelson - rnbuffle at yahoo.com


Best thread I've read in to long, long time!? Thanks, Gang!? -Rolan

Rolan Nelson
Fircrest, WA
rnbuffle at yahoo.com

--- On Fri, 8/26/11, Stark, John <john.stark at bellinghamherald.com> wrote:


From: Stark, John <john.stark at bellinghamherald.com>
Subject: RE: [Tweeters] more viti rocks map trivia
To: borealis at seanet.com
Cc: "Tweeters" <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
Date: Friday, August 26, 2011, 4:31 PM



This would be the Bird War.
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From: Michael Brown [mailto:borealis at seanet.com]
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 4:04 PM
To: Stark, John
Cc: jbroadus at seanet.com; Guy McWethy; Tweeters; EDWARD SWAN
Subject: RE: [Tweeters] more viti rocks map trivia


This has potential to make everyone forget the Pig War!

Michael Brown
Puyallup, WA

> I think we should ask the candidates for Whatcom County Council and
> Executive what they are prepared to do to defend Whatcom County's
> territory from Skagitonian encroachment.
>
>
> John Stark, Reporter
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> 1155 N. State St., Bellingham, WA 98225
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> [mailto:tweeters-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of
> jbroadus at seanet.com
> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 1:36 PM
> To: Guy McWethy; Tweeters; EDWARD SWAN
> Subject: Re: [Tweeters] more viti rocks map trivia
>
> I would think the state statutes (which form the basis for the USGS)
> maps, would be more reliable and more "primary" than county tax
> assessment records (which form the basis for county "ownership"
> records). Let's see what John Stark comes up with. I think we are having
> far to much fun with this to leave it to mere chain of authority. How
> about naming the rocks as their own entity? Surely neither county
> government really cares.
>
>
From: EDWARD SWAN <twoswans9 at msn.com>
> To: "Guy McWethy" <lguy_mcw at yahoo.com>, "Tweeters"
> <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Tweeters] more viti rocks map trivia
> Date sent: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 12:44:28 -0700
> Copies to:
>> Gury McWethy said, "So, do we list by map, or by county records ???"
>>
>> County records are a primary source and maps are secondary sources as
>> they are supposed to conform to the government records. So you go by
>> the primary source the county records. Ed Swan Olympia
>>
>>
>>
From: Guy McWethy
>> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 12:02 PM
>> To: Tweeters
>> Subject: Re: [Tweeters] more viti rocks map trivia
>>
>>
>> Hey Tweets,
>> Just to throw this out there ...
>> The DeLorme map I just consulted showed both the south end of Lummi
>> Island (Carter Point) , and about the lower 1/3 of Eliza Rock, as
>> being in Skagit county.
>>
>> However, I just checked the county ownership data set from each
>> county. Skagit does not have an official ownership record for either.
>> And the records exist in the Whatcom county data. The parcel on Lummi
>
>> Island is listed as USFS, National Forest. The lower tip of Eliza
>> Rock is listed as US Lighthouse Reserve. All the land north of the
>> Lighthouse is listed as private ownership of residential parcels ....
>>
>> Looks like they are listed officially (at least by the county offices)
>
>> as Whatcom County ....
>>
>> So, do we list by map, or by county records ???
>>
>> Boy, am I glad I never have seen a bird there !!! ;)
>>
>> Guy McWethy
>> Renton, WA
>> mailto: lguy_mcw at yahoo.com
>>
>>
From: "jbroadus at seanet.com" <jbroadus at seanet.com>
>> To: tweeters at u.washington.edu
>> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 11:16 AM
>> Subject: [Tweeters] more viti rocks map trivia
>>
>> Just checked the 7.5 minute quad map named "Eliza Island", updated in
>> 1995. It shows the Skagit Whatcom boundary as a straight east-west
>> line, with the very southern tip of Lummi Island in Skagit County, and
>
>> of course therefore puts Viti Rocks in Skagit County. So that must be
>
>> the word from USGS. Also, however, checked the property tax assessor's
>
>> info in both counties-- all of Lummi Island is assessed by Whatcom
>> County. Since the south end of Lummi is a mountain, and since Viti
>> Rocks are part of the national wildlife refuge, I suspect that Skagit
>> County was perfectly happy to cede them both to Whatcom County-- at
>> least for jurisdictional purposes. Still don't know if its
>> "official," or just for convenience.
>>
>> Maybe we should just start having Island lists? Rock lists? Section
>> lists?Clarice Clark Puyallup, WA. 98371 mailto:jbroadus at seanet.com
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