Subject: [Tweeters] off topic - frog id question
Date: Aug 7 08:58:30 2012
From: Kelly McAllister - mcallisters4 at comcast.net


It sure does appear to be a Cascades Frog. However, the lowest elevation
records in the Cascade Mountains region are in the 1,500-1,700 foot range. I
remember a feeling of accomplishment finding the species in the Elbe State
forest at about 1,700 foot elevation. Also, at about that elevation outside
of Greenwater. So, Puyallup, near sea level, would be highly unusual for a
Cascades Frog. The most important clinching characteristic is the color of
the undersides of the hind legs, yellow for Cascades Frogs, red for Northern
Red-legged Frog. The color pattern in the groin would be the next best
characteristic to examine.



Kelly McAllister

Olympia, Washington



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[mailto:tweeters-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Mike M
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 10:34 PM
To: Tiffany; tweeters at u.washington.edu; Marc Hoffman
Subject: Re: [Tweeters] off topic - frog id question



Tiffany and Marc,



Not likely a leopard frog. They only occur in a few counties in Easter
Washington and have never been recorded west of the Cascades. They are two
species of frogs in with spots in western WA. This looks to me like a
Cascades Frog. They do occur in your county but most importantly the
dorsolateral folds or ridges are clearly visible in your photo. Check out
the species account on the Washington Herp Atlas.
http://www1.dnr.wa.gov/nhp/refdesk/herp/speciesmain.html

The key features picture at
http://www1.dnr.wa.gov/nhp/refdesk/herp/html/feat_raca.html clearly shows
the ridges which are distinctive for the four species of frogs with spots in
Washington.



Mike Munts

Colville



From: Marc Hoffman <mailto:tweeters at dartfrogmedia.com>

Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 9:38 PM

To: Tiffany <mailto:tiffany.linbo at gmail.com> ; tweeters at u.washington.edu

Subject: Re: [Tweeters] off topic - frog id question



Hi Tiffany,

That is a Northern Leopard Frog. Nice photo! Here are more, on Google
images:
http://tinyurl.com/8plsrs8

Marc Hoffman
Kirkland, WA

At 09:26 PM 8/6/2012, Tiffany wrote:



For any frog-o-phile, I have an identification question of a frog I found
over the weekend. It is in a pond that my father-in-law created on his farm
in Puyallup. While I have seen many Pacific Treefrogs on his farm, this is
the first time I've seen this frog there. Here's a link to a picture.
http://linboblueberries.com/images/rana.jpg
Any ideas?
Thanks!

Tiffany Linbo
Mountlake Terrace, WA

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