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Wayne,

I think you highlighted a key difference from when Pettingill was published
(by the way it was a great resource). The internet provides us with many
more opportunities/guides for birdfinding. A new Pettingill type guide might
not be needed as much as a guide to Internet websites that identify birding
opportunities in various regions. A lot of Audubons already post birding
opportunities. Ian, my suggestion would be "A Birders Guide to Bird Finding
Resources on the Web." May be a companion would be "the Birders Guide to Bird
Identification Resources on the Web."

As for existing resources, I still use my Pettingill's to get a rough idea of
what might be in an area, as well as a book which lists bird lists from
various National Wildlife Refuges and other public lands, as well as a gem
which Dave Hutchinson sold me about ten years ago, which was the Metropolitan
Guide to Birding North America. Still great for business trips when you have
limited time in an area.

Mike Scuderi
Kent, WA





-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Weber [mailto:contopus at telus.net]
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 6:31 PM
To: TWEETERS
Subject: [Tweeters] Bird-finding guides (was: Field guide needs)

Jeremy (and Tweeters),



Apparently, you don't own-- and perhaps have never seen-- the Pettingill
bird-finding guides. I have copies of all 4 guides (the eastern and western
guides, 1st and 2nd editions), and was a contributor to the 2nd edition of
the western guide. I found these guides invaluable, and they set the tone for
many of the statewide and local bird-finding guides that came afterward.



Obviously, a book that covers half a continent cannot cover the area in as
much detail as a book that covers a single state. Nevertheless, the
Pettingill guides did a superb job of covering all of the U.S. in a
standardized fashion, not leaving out any states.



The alternative is buying 50 separate guides for the U.S., plus 10 for Canada
(or 13 if you include the Territories), which gets to be a pretty expensive
proposition. And that's assuming that there are guides available for every
state and province, which there are not (e.g., no recent guide for BC!!).



As for Oregon, everyone on Tweeters should be aware of the excellent ONLINE
bird-finding guide put together by the East Cascades Audubon Society, which
is available at http://birdingoregon.info . This guide lists MORE THAN 1000
birding sites in Oregon, although info on some of them is quite brief. The
only problem is that you have to have online access to use it when away from
home, which I don't, although that may change in the near future.



Wayne C. Weber

Delta, BC

contopus at telus.net







From: tweeters-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu
[mailto:tweeters-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Jeremy Kimm
Sent: March-01-12 3:53 PM
To: tweeters
Subject: Re: [Tweeters] Field Guide needs



Hi All,



Is it even possible to "adequately" cover an area bigger than a state in a
single book? I would argue not.



In terms of birdfinding guides, an Opperman-calibre guide to Oregon would be
a must have (and I haven't found one yet).



Jeremy Kimm

Victoria, BC



From: Wayne Weber <contopus at telus.net>
To: TWEETERS <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2012 2:36:37 PM
Subject: RE: [Tweeters] Field Guide needs


Ian and Tweeters,

I would say to the editor, don't bother-- there are too many good field
guides out there already, what with the National Geo guide, Sibley's guides,
Peterson's guides, Crossley's guide, etc. Any new field guide trying to
compete with these is likely to fall flat on its face. What we really could
use is a continent-wide, or eastern and western, BIRD-FINDING GUIDES to
replace the long-out-of-date Pettingill guides (published in 1977 and 1981).
There is nothing on the market right now that adequately covers an area
larger than a single state.

Wayne C. Weber
Delta, BC
contopus at telus.net



-----Original Message-----
From: tweeters-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu
[mailto:tweeters-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Ian Paulsen
Sent: March-01-12 12:32 PM
To: birdbooklist at yahoogroups.com
Cc: neoorn-l at listserv.lsu.edu; tweeters at u.washington.edu;
pelagics at yahoogroups.com; neobird at listserv.uh.edu;
birdwg01 at listserv.arizona.edu
Subject: [Tweeters] Field Guide needs

HI ALL:
I just received an email from an editor at a publishing house that is
looking for suggestions for publishing a bird field guide. So I'm asking
for suggestions!

sincerely
--

Ian Paulsen
Bainbridge Island, WA, USA
Visit my BIRDBOOKER REPORT blog here:
http://birdbookerreport.blogspot.com/


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