Subject: [Tweeters] Juvenile black scoters?
Date: Aug 15 14:49:21 2013
From: Steve Loitz - steveloitz at gmail.com


Do juvy Harlequins have white undersides?

FWIW, the majority of ducks I see in Cascades semi-alpine lakes in the
summer are Barrow's Goldeneyes. I'm delighted when I see a Harlequin at a
high lake. Seems that we see more Harlequins flying over streams.

Steve Loitz
Seattle, WA


On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Larry Schwitters <leschwitters at me.com>wrote:

> Wayne,
>
> Wondering why you left Harlequin Duck off your list of possible species.
>
> Larry Schwitters
> Issaquah
> On Aug 15, 2013, at 12:30 PM, Wayne Weber wrote:
>
> Jennifer and Tweeters,****
> ** **
> Black Scoters would be impossible on a Cascade mountain lake in August.
> The species doesn?t breed in British Columbia, let alone in Washington.***
> *
> ** **
> What about young Barrow?s Goldeneyes? The habitat is perfect for them,
> although they may be an uncommon breeder that far south. Downy young of
> Barrow?s Goldeneyes, Common Goldeneyes, and Buffleheads all have blackish
> heads with contrasting white cheeks and throats. Without an adult female
> present, the young of these 3 species are so similar that they are hard to
> tell from each other. However, in the area you describe, Barrow?s Goldeneye
> would be the most likely of those 3 species.****
> ** **
> Wayne C. Weber****
> Delta, BC****
> contopus at telus.net****
> ** **
> ** **
> ** **
> *From:* tweeters-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu [mailto:
> tweeters-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu] *On Behalf Of *Jennifer
> DeSelle
> *Sent:* August-15-13 9:30 AM
> *To:* tweeters at u.washington.edu
> *Subject:* [Tweeters] Juvenile black scoters?****
> ** **
> I just got back from backpacking in the Indian Heaven Wilderness, Gifford
> Pinchot Nat'l Forest. We camped on Junction Lake, which is a small,
> shallow lake at 4,700 feet. Over 2 days we were able to observe 2 juvenile
> ducks on this lake. I could not identify them in the field. I did not
> have my camera but took notes. When we got home we began researching, only
> discover that our ducks look exactly like juvenile Black Scoters, which
> should not be down here during the summer. They had the dark head,
> prominent white cheek, and white undersides. We observed them diving and
> eating insects flying over the water by snapping at them. They did not fly
> at all but would "test" their wings, bucking up and revealing their white
> breast/bellies. Could these be Black Scoters? Does anyone have any other
> ideas?****
> ** **
> Jennifer DeSelle****
> Olympia, WA****
> jendeselle at yahoo.com****
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