Subject: [Tweeters] OC or MG Warbler? the vote is almost unanimous, but *
Date: Feb 12 08:30:22 2014
From: Christine Southwick - clsouth at u.washington.edu


The key confusing point to me was its pink feet. The legs look dark to me, but the feet do look pink in all the pictures. Orange-crowned Warblers (OCWA) have "dark bill and legs", but I couldn't find anything about its feet.
I went on line
http://bna.birds.cornell.edu/bna/species/101/galleries/photos/ocwa_gb_12_jpg/image_popup_view
and the picture

"Orange-crowned Warbler
Oreothlypis celata | Order PASSERIFORMES ? Family PARULIDAE shows an OCWA with pink feet, and a gray head. And another picture at the same page shows the pink feet even better.

I couldn't believe that we had a MacGillivray's Warbler this time of year, and as Barry said, the breast was wrong.

So, I am convinced thhat it is an Orange-crowned Warbler.

Thanks for all the good pictures and the good discussion. This is one of the reasons that Tweeters is such a treasure.

Christine Southwick
N Seattle/ Shoreline
clsouthwick at q.com
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On Tue, 11 Feb 2014, Birder1944 at aol.com wrote:

> Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 19:52:28 -0500 (EST)
> From: Birder1944 at aol.com
> To: barbdeihl at comcast.net, Tweeters at u.washington.edu
> Subject: Re: [Tweeters] OC or MG Warbler? the vote is almost unanimous,
> but *
>
> I was one of the people who voted for MacGillivay's Warbler, but after seeing the bird today and looking at my pictures,
> I'm changing my vote to Orange-crowned.? Here are my reasons, and there are links to my pictures (sorry about the quality,
> the light was poor) below.
> ?
> Looking at my three field guides, I can see evidence both ways, but I guess I think the weight of the evidence is for
> Orange-crowned.? Under MacGillivray's Warbler, Peterson says "Some Orange-crowned Warblers also have grayish head
> contrasting with olivey yellow body and pale, broken eye-ring; but they are shaped and behave differently, are duller
> yellow, AND HAVE BLURRY BREAST STREAKS."
> ?
> The drawings and pictures of MacGillivray's Warblers in my field guides don't show blurry breast streaks, and?this bird
> definitely does.? As for the shape of the bird,?this bird looks kind of long and lean, like Orange-crowned Warblers, not
> short and plump like the images of MacGillivray's in the field guides.
> ?
> Orange-crowned Warblers are known for their yellow undertail coverts, too, which?this bird certainly has.
> ?
> On the other hand, the bill on?this bird does look more like a MacGillivray's I'd say, although the lower half of the bill
> isn't as orange as what the field guides show for MacGillivray's.? The leg color looks more like MacGillivray's, too, to
> my eye.
> ?
> So, there is evidence both ways, but the blurry breast streaks and Peterson's comment that some Orange-crowned Warblers
> have grayish heads are the most persuasive things to me.? In one of my pictures, it looks like there are some yellow
> feathers on top of the head, too, and that is more like Orange-crowned, I think.? I think I will call it an Orange-crowned
> for now, but I will be interested to hear what other people think, and their reasons.
> ?
> http://barry15.com/2014_Birding_Reports/Warbler/7593_Warbler_front_view.JPG
> ?
> http://barry15.com/2014_Birding_Reports/Warbler/7597_Warbler_three-quarter_view.JPG
> ?
> http://barry15.com/2014_Birding_Reports/Warbler/7602_Warbler_side_view.JPG
> ?
> http://barry15.com/2014_Birding_Reports/Warbler/7621_Warbler.JPG
> ?
> I would be happy to be convinced otherwise, but that is my inexpert view at this time.
> ?
> Barry Brugman
> Kirkland
> ?
> ?
> In a message dated 2/11/2014 4:22:33 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, barbdeihl at comcast.net writes:
> 3/4 of you who responded seemed confident that this is a MacGillivray's Warbler - 1/4 said Orange-crowned and,
> this just in - one vote for ?Palm Warbler ! ?And one person suggested making a tasty tea out of.....the Turkey
> Tail fungus (or did ?his descriptor "good" just mean good for you?) !
> Features noted that seemed to confirm the MacGillivray's ID:
> grayish hood?
> eye "arcs" (incomplete eye-ring)
> bright yellow undertail coverts
> longer bill than an OC
> light bottom bill
> pinkish legs
>
> *Dennis P says it is a gray-headed sub-species of an Orange-crowned Warbler that breeds in Alaska and winters in the
> East. ?He added that MacGillivray's are yellow below, not yellow-green and their gray hood "just doesn't look like"
> this one's ! ?And he added that, as this bird's hood seems grayer than most he's seen, it is likely a first-year
> bird, but will take a look at Birds of N.A. online to decide for certain.
>
> Thanks to the following for responding to my query and adding to the fervor of the sleuthing: ?
> Brien M, Tom T, ?James R-H, Carol R, Michael H, Mike H, Barry B, Brett W, Barry L, Ann-Marie W, Twink C, Greg A, Amy
> S, Jack N & Dennis P.
>
> This has been a fun exercise - I was hoping we are seeing a MacGillivray's, but at least it is a rare wintering
> Orange-crowned subspecies...UNLESS some of the visitors' photos show it sporting different traits than mine do...
> ?:-)
>
> Again, you're most welcome to come over to try to see the warbler - a couple of hours of successful, on & off
> viewing around noon today. The warbler appeared and disappeared maybe a half-dozen times. ?Also, the once-mystery
> warbler has adopted a new technique for eating the bark butter - it digs out a little chunk and flies off with it to
> eat - the butter is softer today, so maybe that works better for it - or did it learn this technique from the
> nuthatches? ?:-) ?When the most recent visitor and I spotted the warbler around 2:45 this afternoon, the undersides
> looked pretty yellowish, but of course it was likely the lighting - everything else was so dark, the colors of the
> bird stood out more in contrast.
>
> Other birds that we saw/heard in or near the yard today, included: ?Ruby-crowned Kinglet, Red-breasted Nuthatch,
> Song Sparrow, Bewick's Wren, Townsend's Warbler, Yellow-rumped Warbler, Spotted Towhee, Dark-eyed Junco, Anna's
> Hummingbird, Band-tailed Pigeon, Steller's Jay, American Crow, American Robin, Black- and Chestnut-backed Chickadee,
> Varied Thrush (heard), Bushtit, Northern Flicker, Cooper's Hawk, Pileated Woodpecker (heard), Eastern Gray
> Squirrelbird, Black & White-crowned Cat(bird) and lastly, a Great Metallic Heron!?
>
> Good Warbling !
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> Barb Deihl
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> North Matthews Beach - NE Seattle
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