Subject: [Tweeters] Hawk Owl's Demise
Date: Jan 10 09:00:03 2016
From: Sammy Catiis - hikersammy at msn.com


Thank you.. well said! It boils down to respect. Many people have a lack of this.. and that's sad. It's not the law that matters so much as respect. Not everyone shares the passion of birds like we do. I would seriously rethink before tweeting a bird that would get this kind of attention.. weather on public land or not. REGARDLESS of weather or not it's legal.

Brings up the firestorm I mentioned on the last incident like that.. the land owners CAN shoot them. Yes, it's illegal .. I know that.. but nothing prevents it. So why would you push them. Why are you being so selfish and riotous with what you want being more important than those that live there? Unless you are invited, don't go there. It' simply disrespectful... If anyone EVER is upset in these instances, you should always first, sympathize and validate their concerns. Then give helpful suggestions. They probably could have made a fortune selling coffee for instance.

Get out, find your own, and enjoy the peaceful side of things. A life bird, is not worth the life of a bird.

Sammy
(It's too bad someone didn't give the owners nearby, alternative suggestions of getting it to move on)


From: rogermoyer1 at hotmail.com
To: tweeters at u.washington.edu
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 06:50:46 +0000
Subject: [Tweeters] Hawk Owl's Demise






What I say here will probably create a firestorm but I feel it needs to be brought into this discussion. I believe the birding community bears a modicum of responsibility for this birds demise.
I've been birding the better part of 40 years and being a lister and a small time chaser I understand the desire to see these types of rarities and add them to your lists. I've even been in the position of the birders after this owl. I've stopped on the
public right of way to watch a bird and had a land owner get upset with me when I didn't move on.



It is reprehensible that the bird was killed if it indeed was shot by the land owner. However, if we birders didn't hang around for long periods of time when the land owner really didn't want all the attention the bird would still be alive. I would further
expect that there were some photographers who still hauled out their cameras even though the land owner expressly asked people not to. Causing just that much more angst. To often we birders only look to our wants and not the desires of those around is. When
this is done it can sometimes have dire consequences. In the future it might be a good idea to pay more attention to the desires of the land owners and not stop for long periods of time. Just because one can legally do something doesn't mean on should.
Above all else we should remember one of the primary rules of birding, "the welfare of the bird needs to come first."



Roger Moyer
Charlotte, NC




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