Subject: [Tweeters] Re: visiting birding locations accessed through
Date: Jul 28 11:12:47 2016
From: Rick Tyler - rhtyler at gmail.com
I'll throw in another option -- a NEXUS pass, which includes the bonus of
getting across the border to Canada (great birding...) with a 0-10 minute
wait instead of up to 3 hours and 40 minutes (my pre-NEXUS personal
record). Information:
https://www.cbp.gov/travel/trusted-traveler-programs/nexus
Rick
On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 7:25 PM, Jim Danzenbaker <jdanzenbaker at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi Tweeters,
>
> As is usually the case, the combined knowledge of all of you in
> tweeterland has far surpassed my elementary understanding of Washington
> State's Enhanced Driver's License program. Many of you responded to my
> e-mail that I sent this morning - some copying tweeters and others were
> private responses. I want to summarize all of the responses here so that
> all of you have the benefit of those responses. My apology for the length
> of this e-mail:
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Apparently standard Washington drivers licenses don't require proof of
> residency. That's the issue that the article below discusses.
> http://www.seattletimes.com/life/travel/standard-drivers-license-soon-wont-get-you-aboard-aircraft/
>
> "The federal REAL ID Act, passed in 2005, requires proof of U.S.
> citizenship or proof of lawful status in the U.S. in order for a license to
> be valid for federal use. People without valid federal IDs might
> eventually need a passport or have to go through other screening processes
> in order to travel domestically or enter federal buildings."Washington
> state already offers enhanced driver?s licenses and IDs that are valid
> under the federal law. The state?s enhanced driver?s license or ID card
> costs more than the standard issue and requires presentation of proof of
> citizenship, such as an original birth certificate or a naturalization
> certificate. Standard Washington licenses or ID cards can be upgraded to
> enhanced status for a calibrated fee of $3 per year remaining on your
> current license or ID card. The other option for flying is to present a
> U.S. passport, which costs more than a state ID and can take up to five
> weeks to obtain."
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Others may also respond but I wanted to tell you that Washington State
> does have an enhanced driver's license. You have to go through an
> interview with someone at the WA Dept. of Licensing to get it but it is
> readily available if you want one. I've had one for about five years.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Jim: I just got my drivers license renewed and in the info sent me it
> talked about the enhanced drivers license and from that info I gathered
> that its addition added on so you can go to Canada and probably Mexico-who
> the hell knows... I passed my info onto anther scared senior citizen. If
> you call up the WA license web it will tell you. Think it is about $10
> more.m That?s a heck of a lot cheaper then a passport?esp when they screw
> the passport up in the first place and make a correction. What a
> frustration that was for me going to Australia thru Hawaii. It was a
> Japanese at HI airport that gave me a bad time.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> This change was made at JBLM as well I believe Jan. 1st? Sometime around
> there.. it was on a National level. How strictly it's enforced? I'm not
> sure. I wasn't required but was prepared haven been pre-approved probably
> helped? I don't know.
>
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> Washington State does offer Enhanced Drivers Licenses, Enhanced
> Intermediate Licenses, and Enhanced ID Cards.
> http://www.dol.wa.gov/driverslicense/edlget.html
> I have a WA Enhanced Drivers License and it works well at the Yakima
> Training Center, where I also have the required annual YTC Recreation Card.
> I think the Rec' Card costs about $10. Getting one requires reading some
> material on YTC regulations and signing that you agree to follow those
> regulations. It's available at the gym / Rec' Center. In addition to the
> Enhanced Drivers License and YTC Rec' Card, Vehicle Registration and proof
> of current vehicle insurance are also required on every visit. Motorcycles
> are not permitted down range. Accessing Priest Rapids Lake, and entering
> and leaving the base through any place other than the main gate, though
> commonly practiced, continues to be explicitly prohibited.
>
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> Alternatively, I believe if you have a valid passport that also would work
> if you know in advance you will be visiting a military base.
>
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> We are life long WA residents who have enhanced drivers licenses.
> They are also good for entering Canada. They take a photo of your eye
> pupil to confirm I d.
>
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> This rule does apply at JBLM, and requires a passport or a WA enhanced
> driver's license which allows access to and from Canada without a passport.
> There may be some other photo id that would suffice as well, but a regular
> WA driver's license is no longer sufficient.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Here's how to get a WA EDL:
>
> http://www.dol.wa.gov/driverslicense/edl.html
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> They don't know in Arizona what is happening in Washington. I have had an
> enhanced drivers license here for years.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> I hope this information helps.
>
> Thanks again tweeterland!
>
> Jim Danzenbaker
> Battle Ground, WA
>
> On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 12:24 PM, Jim Danzenbaker <jdanzenbaker at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Tweeters,
>>
>> This is an fyi for birders who may be visiting birding locations that are
>> on or accessed through military bases in the United States.
>>
>> Several weeks ago, I spent some quality time in southeast Arizona
>> enjoying such specialties as Slate-throated Redstart, Buff-collared
>> Nightjars, Five-striped Sparrows, and Rufous-capped Warbler. I ended my
>> five day trip with a planned visit to Huachuca Canyon which is accessed
>> through Fort Huachuca Army Installation located next to Sierra Vista, AZ.
>> As is typically the case when entering a military base as a visitor, sign
>> in and obtaining a visitor pass is required. Everything went smoothly
>> until the officials asked me what state I was from. When I said
>> "Washington", I was asked for TWO forms of photo identification. I had
>> only one. The reason why two forms were required for Washington State
>> driver's license holders is because the state of Washington does not have
>> an enhanced driver's license (whatever that is). They asked me for a car
>> registration since that would be a valid photo identification substitute.
>> I had a rental car so that didn't work. I eventually found my USAA credit
>> card and, since I was requesting a Visitor Pass for only 6 hours, I ws
>> eventually approved for the one time visit.
>>
>> My thought for the Tweeters community is that if you are planning on
>> visiting a birding location which is accessed through a military base and
>> you have a Washington State driver's license, be prepared to be asked for a
>> second form of photo identification. According to the officer who I spoke
>> with, this rule may not be applied consistently across all military bases
>> but it certainly seems to be enforced at Fort Huachuca. He mentioned that
>> they were able to come up with an alternate plan for visitors with an
>> Arizona driver's license (must be another state which doesn't have an
>> enhanced license) since they get so many visitors with Arizona driver's
>> licenses.
>>
>> I don't know if this rule applies to visitors entering Lewis-McCord or if
>> they've come up with an Arizona type plan which waives the two photo
>> identification requirement for in-state driver's license holders.
>>
>> I hope this helps any of you who may be planning out of state birding
>> locations accessed through military locations.
>>
>> Keep your eyes and ears skyward.
>>
>> Jim
>> --
>> Jim Danzenbaker
>> Battle Ground, WA
>> 360-702-9395
>> jdanzenbaker at gmail.com
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Jim Danzenbaker
> Battle Ground, WA
> 360-702-9395
> jdanzenbaker at gmail.com
>
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