i can't help but notice that an indecent number of airports happen to be
located on migratory flyways or on refueling siets for migratory birds.


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On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 10:37 PM, Wally Davis <wallydavis3 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm both a biologist that loves birding and a retired Navy pilot. I can
> tell you that something as small as a sparrow can cause failure of a jet
> engine if it is sucked into the intake. If the engine explodes, it can
> bring down the airplane. These incidents typically take place during
> landing or take off and in the vicinity of populated areas. Personally I
> had to abort a flight and make an emergency landing because I hit a turkey
> vulture on the wing between my number 3 and 4 engines on take-off. That
> hit
> wiped out the leading edge of the wing. Fortunately it didn't go into an
> engine. I was also a passenger in a 737 that ingested a seagull on
> take-off. The pilot shut the engine down and had to make an emergency
> landing with one engine and a lot of people on board. An enormous effort
> has gone into trying alternate ways to keep birds away from airports. I
> don't think a really good way has been found. If birds aren't controlled
> around airports we either have to give up flying or we have to accept that
> there will be multiple accidents every year caused by birds ingested into
> jet engines. Unfortunately we don't live in a perfect world.
>
> Wally Davis
> Snohomish
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tweeters-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu
> [mailto:tweeters-bounces at mailman1.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Dennis
> Paulson
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 1:08 PM
> To: TWEETERS tweeters
> Subject: re: [Tweeters] Renton airport anti-bird measures question
>
> Wildlife Services is a source of one of the substantial environmental
> "crimes" in the United States. They kill so many vertebrate animals, just
> because one or another segment of our society doesn't like them, that it is
> shocking to see lists of the totals every year. If you feel up to it, here
> is the list for 2014:
> https://www.aphis.usda.gov/wildlife_damage/prog_data/
> 2014/G/Tables/Table%20G
> _ShortReport.pdf
>
> You can go back year after year and add them up to get an idea of
> activities
> like that described at the Renton airport that are surely taking an
> unjustifiable toll of some of our wildlife. You can see the totals at the
> end.
>
> Speaking of airports, they killed 548 Upland Sandpipers in 12 states in
> that
> year, presumably as aviation threats. Does anyone believe that an Upland
> Sandpiper can threaten any kind of airplane? And this is a declining
> species
> that is considered of special conservation concern in numerous states. Or
> how about a total of 2,115 individuals of 5 species of swallows? Oh yes,
> they do poop a lot. 215,238 golden-plovers were "dispersed" (only 17 were
> killed) in that year. What in heck does that mean? That they chased away
> almost 600/day every day for 365 days from the same few airports?
>
> You can do your own thinking of why each of these species of birds,
> mammals,
> reptiles, amphibians and fishes is killed.
>
> As far as I know, there has been no successful attempt by conservation
> organizations to limit the damages to animal populations caused by Wildlife
> Services. That they are part of the Department of Agriculture rather than
> the Department of the Interior tells the story.
>
> Dennis Paulson
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