Subject: [Tweeters] Need Raptor ID Help
Date: Thu Feb 8 15:36:56 PST 2018
From: Alexandra MacKenzie - mizmak at gmail.com

UPDATE: Between Tweeter comments (some made privately) and Flickr
comments, I have about half Broad-winged Hawk IDs and half Cooper's Hawk
IDs, but a Flickr commenter just suggested immature Northern Goshawk, which
looks good, too! Awaiting final determination from Bud Anderson. Thanks
for all the input, everybody--hawks are hard!
Alex


On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 2:30 PM, Stewart Wechsler <ecostewart at gmail.com>
wrote:


> Alex,

>

> I would agree with your first assessment, that it is indeed a Cooper's

> Hawk. Look at how narrow the final black band is on the tail, and compare

> it to photos on the internet of Broad-winged Hawks, with broader final

> black bands, and may be fewer black bands. That said, I am not certain it

> isn't a Sharp-shinned Hawk. It would be helpful to get an idea of the

> size, crow-sized for a Cooper's , big jay sized for a Sharp-shinned, but

> the tail on your photo shows the better rounding at the end, that is more a

> feature of the Cooper's Hawk, while the Sharp-shinned is a bit more

> squarred at the end, at times with a better defined notch in the center.

> Also, we don't get many Broad-winged Hawks in our area, which is partly why

> I always want to know where a photo was taken, ideally with some habitat

> information..

>

> -Stewart Wechsler

> www.stewardshipadventures.com

>

>

>> Message: 7

>> Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2018 08:09:22 -0800

>> From: Alexandra MacKenzie <mizmak at gmail.com>

>> Subject: [Tweeters] Need Raptor ID Help

>> To: tweeters <tweeters at u.washington.edu>

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>> In Sep 2014 I took a photo of a hawk at Magnuson Park in Seattle and

>> posted

>> it on Flickr as a Cooper's Hawk. Recently a birder commented that he

>> thought it was a Broad-winged Hawk. I thought that unlikely but am now

>> confused by his field mark comments. The photo and comments may be found

>> here:

>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/mizmak/15199769280/

>>

>> If the experts can weigh in, I'd greatly appreciate it.

>>

>> Thank you,

>> Alex MacKenzie

>> Seattle

>> mizmak at gmail.com

>

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