Subject: [Tweeters] Is there still a way to take Forest Service roads from Winthrop to Loomis?
Date: Thu Aug 20 06:59:59 PDT 2020
From: Scott Downes - downess at charter.net

Wayne,
A quick note on regrowth in the previous fires near Tiffany Mountain. I make a point to spend a couple of days in this area each year. While there certainly isn't a restored forest yet, many of the young Lodgepole pine is head high or in many places 10-15 tall, so the regrowth is starting but like you point out it will still be decades before the forest resembles preview conditions.

For people exploring that area, it is worth watching for Northern hawk-owl as there have been a few sightings in this larger fire area over the years, breeding documented at least once.

Scott Downes
Downess at charter.net
Yakima Wa


> On Aug 19, 2020, at 9:04 PM, Wayne Weber <contopus at telus.net> wrote:

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> Ed, you can drive from Winthrop through to Loomis by driving up Okanagan NF Road 37 along Boulder Creek, then taking NF Road 39 through the high country past Roger Lake, Tiffany Springs, and Corral Butte to Long Swamp. There is no connection between Thirtymile and Long Swamp, and hasn't been for more than 30 years. The unfortunate part about taking NF Roads 37 and 39 is that virtually all the country between Roger Lake and Long Swamp was incinerated in the Tripod Fire of 2006. It is depressing to drive past miles and miles of burnt snags, and there has been relatively little regrowth so far. The fire was pretty intense.

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> I spent a lot of time in this area during the Washington Breeding Bird Atlas (1988-1994), and have visited occasionally since then. One of these days, there will be a vibrant forest there again, but it will certainly be long after I'm gone.

>

> All the best,

>

> Wayne Weber

> Delta, BC

> contopus at telus.net

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> From: Tweeters [mailto:tweeters-bounces at mailman11.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of EdSwan2 at Comcast.net

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> Subject: [Tweeters] Is there still a way to take Forest Service roads from Winthrop to Loomis?

>

> Hi all, I haven't taken the back way from Winthrop to Loomis for almost a decade and in looking at current maps it was looking like the old way doesn't go through anymore. I couldn't see the connection between Thirty Mile and Long Swamp anymore. Is there still a way?

>

> Good Birding,

> Ed

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