I agree with Dennis about the wrong end of the gun. An adjacent property
owner had a teenage son. This is a rural area and they were hunters.
The son spent a lot of time shooting Starlings which was assumed to be
quasi legal. I suspect he shot Crows when he could.
This was more than 25 years ago, before we purchased that property. To
this day I have _never_ seen a crow on the ground anywhere in the area,
even though flocks fly overhead all the time. There are about 100 acres of
farmland in the area. Fallow some years and in the winter. Never on the
ground. A few days ago, I was amazed that a few were mobbing a Barred Owl
in a large cedar tree on the property. Maybe they heard the
Robins/Steller's Jays? I don't recall ever having seen them even land in a
tree before in all these years.
Crows have long memories. But, they quite happily walk around on my
daughter's tiny lawn in Portland. Not a care in the world there. Crows are
smart, but that's not news.
Another interesting factoid. So far as is known the (former) Northwestern
Crow never made it to Oregon. BUT, the beach crows here are also very
small and seem to be confined to the beach areas, often congregating on
tidal flats. Wish I was a good enough birder to have compared these crows
with the larger, inland ones or with NW Crows. I guess that could be
easily done through the Macaulay Library. And by inland, I don't mean far
inland. I just mean a few miles from the beach where the crows appear
quite a bit larger. And less prone to moving around in flocks. (Hopefully,
this last paragraph isn't a Fake Factoid, a part of my imagination).
Bob OBrien Portland
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 5:22 PM Dennis Paulson <
dennispaulson at comcast.net>
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Northwestern Crows are thought to have evolved in coastal areas with
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Native American villages, thus adapted to living around people. Why the
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eastern crows didn't do the same, I don't know, except that crows have been
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agricultural pests in the East for a very long time and were often sighted
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at the end of a gun barrel. That may be why they aren't so tame.
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Dennis Paulson
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Seattle
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On Jun 30, 2020, at 5:03 PM, Catherine Joy <catherinejoymusic at gmail.com>
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Behaviorally, I have noticed the crows on the West coast are more "tame"
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than East coast birds. I would never see crows just walking around with the
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pedestrians on busy city streets out East. And I never was able to approach
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crows so closely until moving here.
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On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 4:26 PM Hans-Joachim Feddern <
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This has been a long time in coming and is based on scientific data.
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Personally I feel there is a difference in vocalization with American Crows
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and the size difference can be quite obvious. Also habitat: "Northwestern"
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Crows are rarely found too far from shore. To me there also is a difference
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between calls of American Crows here in the Northwest and birds on the East
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Coast. I have never heard a crow in Maryland doing the "meow" call you can
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hear here frequently. Another interesting observation, is that I have never
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seen a roadkill-ed crow on the East Coast, but see many around here! Just
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thinking!
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