Subject: [Tweeters] Bird Migration on Radar
Date: Sun Mar 8 12:49:00 PDT 2020
From: Robert O'Brien - baro at pdx.edu

Such movements of robins and varied thrushes are reported in Birds of
Oregon for fall movements in the mountains. I don't know about spring
though or at lower elevations in the valleys. Bob O'Brien

On Sunday, March 8, 2020, Randy <re_hill at q.com> wrote:


> Fall migrant raptor migration viewing sites in E Clark County WA typically

> have weather and/or calendar-induced numbers of both robins and thrushes.

> Not real high above the landscape but in the 2000' elevation zone. These

> can last 2-3 hours some mornings. Don't know that this happens in the

> spring as Varied Thrushes can be altitudinal as well as north-south

> migrants. Maybe we refer again to Jim D. who spends more time up there.

>

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> Randy Hill

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> Ridgefield

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> *From:* Tweeters [mailto:tweeters-bounces at mailman11.u.washington.edu] *On

> Behalf Of *Robert O'Brien

> *Sent:* Saturday, March 7, 2020 10:32 PM

> *To:* Dennis Paulson

> *Cc:* Andy Stepniewski; TWEETERS tweeters; B Boekelheide

> *Subject:* Re: [Tweeters] Bird Migration on Radar

>

>

>

> Right, that is what I observed regularly every winter in California as a

> kid, as I mentioned. But I've lived at this s.e. portland rural location

> for 45 years and never seen that phenomenon. Instead groups of Robin's

> appear this time of year seemingly out of nowhere. So I'm just taking up on

> the previous suggestion that they could be night migrants here. Is anyone

> in Washington or Oregon seeing flocks of day flying robins at several

> hundred feet altitude? And the same comments could be applied to varied

> thrush as well. In California Robins were common, regular, high flying

>

> migrants every winter during the day but varied thrushes joined them only

> in occasional Winters and were fewer in number than the Robins. The latter

> ties in with my experience here where the varied thrush abundance varies

> widely from year to year but still I've never seen any flying at altitude

> at any time. Bob

>

> On Saturday, March 7, 2020, Dennis Paulson <dennispaulson at comcast.net>

> wrote:

>

> Bob, that's another good candidate for early migration (our territorial

> male appeared in our yard January 30), but I believe that robins migrate

> primarily during the day.

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> Dennis

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> On Mar 6, 2020, at 9:48 PM, B Boekelheide <bboek at olympus.net> wrote:

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> Hello, Tweeters, et al,

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>

> What about robins? Even though many robins stay in WA through the winter,

> many more begin to pass through around this time, particularly

> brightly-colored males on their way north that probably spent the winter in

> CA and OR. The early bird catches the territory, you know. On the

> Wednesday morning bird walks in RR Bridge Park near Sequim, there is a

> distinct increase in robins in late winter, like in February and March. In

> the last week around here we have noticed more robins on territories and

> more robins singing in the morning.

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> And we all know there are a lot of robins out there.

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> Just a guess.

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>

> Bob Boekelheide

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> Dungeness

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> *Subject: Bird Migration on Radar*

> Date: Fri Mar 6 2020 18:05 pm

> From: jdanzenbaker AT gmail.com

>

>

>

> Hi Tweeters and Dennis,

>

> I'm just reading this thread with interest. To answer the question from

>

> Dennis, nope, didn't notice any appreciable increase in any species or

>

> family of birds down here in Clark County yesterday. However, three other

>

> Clark County birders and I were birding in Skamania County all day! This

>

> morning, I visited the Vancouver Lowlands and witnessed about 15,000 geese

>

> (Snow and Cackling) feeding in the corn fields. However, these are

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> (probably) birds that winter here so they wouldn't have triggered a

>

> migration alert since I think most only commute between Suave Island,

>

> Oregon and the Vancouver lowlands - about 3 miles as the goose flies.

>

> There were also about 600 Sandhill Cranes but they are diurnal fliers. The

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> number of cranes may have increased in the last several days - but maybe

>

> not since I'm not there every day to count them. Also, as Dennis stated,

>

> most (if not all) goose and crane commute time is during daylight hours.

>

> True goose migration is nocturnal. I don't think there was any nocturnal

>

> goose migration going on since there were no reports on OBOL of goose

>

> flocks heard overhead at night. Good numbers of swallows started arriving

>

> several weeks ago but its impossible to know what the daily turnover is

>

> with Tree and Violet-green Swallows.

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>

> Seems like there was an uptick in sparrows this morning - Savannah Sparrows

>

> have arrived and blackbird flocks were more numerous. However, blackbirds

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> have nocturnal roosts even during migration - I think.

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>

>

> Keep your eyes and ears skyward and on those migration computer screens!

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>

>

> Jim

>

> Battle Ground, WA

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>

> > Hi Andy and tweeters,

>

> > Very interesting to read Cliff Mass�s blog. But I expressed puzzlement a

>

> > while back when a spectacular radar signal was shown in the Florida Keys in

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> > late February that people attributed to bird migration. When I lived in

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> > Miami for 15 years, the only incoming migrants in late February were Purple

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> > Martins and Swallow-tailed Kites, both of which are diurnal migrants and in

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> > any case wouldn�t give a radar signal like that.

>

> > I�ll ask the same question here. The only migrants that normally come into

>

> > this area in early March are swallows and a few Rufous Hummingbirds, which

>

> > are diurnal migrants. I would expect no movements other than that. Thus I�m

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> > still not entirely convinced, unless someone can point out something I have

>

> > missed. Possibly waterfowl? But of course they also do a lot of their

>

> > migration in the daytime and would not start at dusk and stop at dawn.

>

>

> > Jim Danzenbaker, you�re looking at the sky. Any massive arrivals in your

>

> > area yesterday?

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> > And what could it be if not birds?

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>

> > Dennis Paulson

>

> > Seattle

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> > Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2020 08:13:19 -0800

>

> > From: "Andy Stepniewski"

>

> > To: "TWEETERS"

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> >

>

> > Tweeters,

>

> > Cliff Mass in his 6 March 2020 weather blog documents substantial numbers

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> > of birds migrating north from Portland OR on Wednesday night (4 March).

>

> > Further, he explains the weather pattern that night was conducive for

>

> > migration, giving the ?birdies? as he calls them, a tailwind.

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>

> > See ?Weather Radar Shows Spring Bird Migration:?

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> > *https://cliffmass.blogspot.com...* <https://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2020/03/weather-radar-shows-spring-bird.html>

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> > Pretty cool stuff!

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> > Andy Stepniewski

>

> > Yakima WA

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> > steppie at nwinfo.net

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