Subject: [Tweeters] Hummingbird feeders
Date: Mon Dec 27 13:07:11 PST 2021
From: Inga Rouches - irouches at gmail.com

I would NOT up the ratio of sugar to water 1/3 to 1. I did that a couple of summers ago and found a dead hummer hanging from my feeder:( It is hard on the kidneys and liver apparently. Maybe it died from something else, but I have always heard that 1/4 to 1 is the same as flower nectar.

Inga


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> Hummingbird Bliss (Dan Reiff)

> 4. Re: Hummingbird feeders (Rachel Lawson)

> 5. UC Davis Researchers Zero in on Sugar Water in Hummingbird

> Feeders - Entomology & Nematology News - ANR Blogs (Dan Reiff)

> 6. Hummingbird Research, Inc. : Attracting Hummingbirds (Dan Reiff)

> 7. Feeding Hummingbirds | All About Birds All About Birds (Dan Reiff)

> 8. The actual research study, but no mention of honey: Microbial

> communities in hummingbird feeders are distinct from floral

> nectar and influenced by bird visitation | Proceedings of the

> Royal Society B: Biological Sciences (Dan Reiff)

> 9. odd finch behaviour during snow; silly hummingbirds also

> (Gary Bletsch)

> 10. Townsend's Warbler in Ballard (Mike Wagenbach)

> 11. Re: odd finch behaviour during snow; silly hummingbirds also

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> 13. birds in the yared (Dennis Paulson)

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> 15. Missing House finches (AMK17)

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> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2021 22:07:02 +0000

> From: Sammy Catiis <hikersammy at msn.com>

> To: Vicki <vickibiltz at gmail.com>, David Hutchinson

> <florafaunabooks at hotmail.com>

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> Very dangerous to assume what you hear is just fine. NO on the Glycerin. Before you spread information, make sure it's true and you can always send Cornell Lab an email to verify.

> Use only granulated white cane sugar and fresh water. Store bought hummingbird food contains preservatives; avoid it. Never use honey which is fatal to hummingbirds; do not use food coloring, artificial sweeteners or other forms of sugar. Make sure the mixture is at room temperature before hanging the feeder.

>

> Thank you,

> it is OK during these cold times to up the ratio of sugar to 1/3 to 1.

>

> Sammy

> Sequim

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> Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2021 10:56 PM

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> Subject: Re: [Tweeters] Hummingbird feeders

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> You are joking about the glycerine, right???

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> On Sat, Dec 25, 2021 at 4:03 PM David Hutchinson <florafaunabooks at hotmail.com<mailto:florafaunabooks at hotmail.com>> wrote:

> A few more suggestions taken from feeder operators in

> the Magnolia/Queen Anne areas :

>

> For vertical feeders, wool socks, carefully attached.

>

> Labor intensive - have a bunch of loaded feeders ready

> and swap them out as often as you can tolerate.

>

> Finally take some glycerine and put a few drops in each

> of your feeders. It should lower the freezing temperature

> a few degrees abd apparently does no harm.

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> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2021 14:47:01 -0800

> From: Dan Reiff <dan.owl.reiff at gmail.com>

> To: TWEETERS tweeters <tweeters at u.washington.edu>

> Subject: [Tweeters] How to Keep Hummingbird Nectar From Freezing

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> Tweeters,

> If you do not see the full article, clock ?read more?:

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> https://www.thespruce.com/how-to-keep-hummingbird-nectar-from-freezing-386542

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> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2021 15:49:59 -0800

> From: Dan Reiff <dan.owl.reiff at gmail.com>

> To: TWEETERS tweeters <tweeters at u.washington.edu>

> Subject: [Tweeters] 11 DIY Ways to Keep Hummingbird Nectar From

> Freezing | Hummingbird Bliss

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> https://hummingbirdbliss.com/11-diy-ways-to-keep-hummingbird-nectar-from-freezing/

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> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2021 00:04:23 +0000

> From: Rachel Lawson <rwlawson5593 at outlook.com>

> To: Tweeters <tweeters at u.washington.edu>

> Subject: Re: [Tweeters] Hummingbird feeders

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> Speaking of assuming what you hear is true...

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> I have heard for years and years that only granulated white sugar, AKA sucrose, should be used to make nectar for hummingbirds. Honey is supposed to be especially bad.

>

> It certainly is true that badly maintained feeders can become contaminated with fungi and bacteria, and this contamination may cause fatal candida infections of the hummingbirds' tongues. But this is true of feeders using nectar made with plain white sugar. It is possible that nectar made with honey or another form of sugar may spoil more quickly than nectar made with white sugar, but supposing that a honey-based nectar feeder is kept scrupulously clean and fresh, is there any actual evidence that honey is particularly harmful? The nectar-feeding birds I cared for as a bird keeper at the zoo thrived on a packaged mixture of carbohydrates, protein, fat, minerals, and vitamins specially formulated to provide the energy and nutrients the birds needed to replace the flower nectar and insects they would eat in the wild. We carefully kept the feeders clean and fresh, and, despite all those extra ingredients, had no trouble with contamination or infections. I asked a lot of zoo!

> people and others about honey, and, though they all "knew" not to feed it to hummingbirds, no one could ever come up with any real, published data to back that up.

>

> If anyone knows of actual studies that have produced actual data about harm to hummingbirds specifically from honey, either because of the chemical composition of honey or its tendency to spoil quickly, I would really, really like to see them. Anecdotal evidence does not count. I am NOT saying that honey is safe for hummingbirds and we all should start putting it in our feeders. I just want to see the science.

>

> Rachel Lawson

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> Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2021 2:07:02 PM

> To: Vicki <vickibiltz at gmail.com>; David Hutchinson <florafaunabooks at hotmail.com>

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> Subject: Re: [Tweeters] Hummingbird feeders

>

> Very dangerous to assume what you hear is just fine. NO on the Glycerin. Before you spread information, make sure it's true and you can always send Cornell Lab an email to verify.

> Use only granulated white cane sugar and fresh water. Store bought hummingbird food contains preservatives; avoid it. Never use honey which is fatal to hummingbirds; do not use food coloring, artificial sweeteners or other forms of sugar. Make sure the mixture is at room temperature before hanging the feeder.

>

> Thank you,

> it is OK during these cold times to up the ratio of sugar to 1/3 to 1.

>

> Sammy

> Sequim

>

> ________________________________

> From: Tweeters <tweeters-bounces at mailman11.u.washington.edu> on behalf of Vicki <vickibiltz at gmail.com>

> Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2021 10:56 PM

> To: David Hutchinson <florafaunabooks at hotmail.com>

> Cc: tweeters at u.washington.edu <tweeters at u.washington.edu>

> Subject: Re: [Tweeters] Hummingbird feeders

>

> You are joking about the glycerine, right???

>

> On Sat, Dec 25, 2021 at 4:03 PM David Hutchinson <florafaunabooks at hotmail.com<mailto:florafaunabooks at hotmail.com>> wrote:

> A few more suggestions taken from feeder operators in

> the Magnolia/Queen Anne areas :

>

> For vertical feeders, wool socks, carefully attached.

>

> Labor intensive - have a bunch of loaded feeders ready

> and swap them out as often as you can tolerate.

>

> Finally take some glycerine and put a few drops in each

> of your feeders. It should lower the freezing temperature

> a few degrees abd apparently does no harm.

>

> David Hutchinson, 206-499-7305

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> Message: 5

> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2021 16:47:07 -0800

> From: Dan Reiff <dan.owl.reiff at gmail.com>

> To: TWEETERS tweeters <tweeters at u.washington.edu>

> Subject: [Tweeters] UC Davis Researchers Zero in on Sugar Water in

> Hummingbird Feeders - Entomology & Nematology News - ANR Blogs

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> Tweeters,

> No mention of honey, but interesting research:

>

> https://ucanr.edu/blogs/blogcore/postdetail.cfm?postnum=29560

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> Message: 6

> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2021 16:49:19 -0800

> From: Dan Reiff <dan.owl.reiff at gmail.com>

> To: TWEETERS tweeters <tweeters at u.washington.edu>

> Subject: [Tweeters] Hummingbird Research, Inc. : Attracting

> Hummingbirds

> Message-ID: <E72D24C6-A384-4B26-AB8B-1DAC72A7A711 at gmail.com>

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> http://www.hummingbirdresearch.net/p286.html

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> Message: 7

> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2021 17:09:45 -0800

> From: Dan Reiff <dan.owl.reiff at gmail.com>

> To: Tweeters <tweeters at uw.edu>

> Subject: [Tweeters] Feeding Hummingbirds | All About Birds All About

> Birds

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> Note the comment, without citations, regarding honey; and also sugar concentrations vary in range in plant nectar: 1/4-1/3.

> And option to use 1/3 in some weather situations:

>

> https://www.allaboutbirds.org/news/feeding-hummingbirds/

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> Message: 8

> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2021 17:21:57 -0800

> From: Dan Reiff <dan.owl.reiff at gmail.com>

> To: Tweeters <tweeters at uw.edu>

> Subject: [Tweeters] The actual research study, but no mention of

> honey: Microbial communities in hummingbird feeders are distinct from

> floral nectar and influenced by bird visitation | Proceedings of the

> Royal Society B: Biological Sciences

> Message-ID: <16715B1F-DCCB-4FAB-9D82-FF40D1D3A08B at gmail.com>

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> The actual research study, but no mention of honey:

>

> https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rspb.2018.2295

>

>

> Sent from my iPhone

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> Message: 9

> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2021 01:52:04 +0000

> From: Gary Bletsch <garybletsch at protonmail.com>

> To: "tweeters at u.washington.edu" <tweeters at u.washington.edu>

> Subject: [Tweeters] odd finch behaviour during snow; silly

> hummingbirds also

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> Dear Tweeters,

>

> Today (Boxing Day) we have over a foot of snow here in the Lyman-Hamilton area. The past two days, my feeders have been swarming with a far larger contingent of birds than we have had in a long time, probably years. Luckily for my dwindling supply of birdseed, the usual horde of Red-winged Blackbirds has thinned. Yesterday at dusk, as the snow flew and visibility dropped to a hundred meters or so, I heard Snow Geese calling overhead. Their name would make one think that they would be happy in the environment here, but I don't believe so--there is very little exposed vegetation for them to eat up here right now.

>

> All day, I kept seeing a strange behaviour from Pine Siskins, of which we had between 70 and 100 visiting the feeders. As the birds foraged on the snowy ground below the feeders, a siskin would repeatedly approach a male Purple Finch and peck at its bill. It almost seemed to me that the siskin was trying to grab some seed out of the Purple Finch's bill. I could not tell if it was the same siskin or the same Purple Finch each time. The Purple Finch would meekly withdraw each time, seemingly cowed by the upstart little siskin.

>

> We had up to 16 Anna's Hummingbirds here as late as the 27th November, but the numbers of hummingbirds began to drop soon after that. Today we had two [2], count them, two Anna's Hummingbirds! I had not seen more than a single hummer here since the eighth instant.

>

> However, I still cannot figure out how these birds survive, judging by their silly behaviour. We have three hummingbird feeders. I keep them full of my special mixture, 50% glycerin, 10% sugar, and a dash of moldy honey...just kidding. It is actually one third sugar and two thirds hot water. Anyway, during these rare cold snaps, I do the labor-intensive rotation method, keeping one inside and two outside. In weather such as we have the last two days had, there is always a nice, warm, thawed hummingbird feeder outside, and a nearly frozen or totally frozen one--plus one warming on the kitchen table. Which feeder do the hummingbirds visit most often? They visit the one that is frozen or close to it! What is up with that?

>

> Yours truly,

>

> Gary Bletsch

>

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> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2021 19:23:12 -0800

> From: Mike Wagenbach <wagen at uw.edu>

> To: Tweeters Tweeters <tweeters at u.washington.edu>

> Subject: [Tweeters] Townsend's Warbler in Ballard

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> We had a Towsend's on our suet feeder in Ballard Tuesday afternoon and

> Wednesday morning, then were gone until this afternoon when we saw it

> again, so I suspect it has been here consistently. Not the first time

> we've had one here in the twenty years we've been here, but not an annual

> yard bird, either.

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> As we arrived home, we watched a Golden-Crowned Kinglet foraging on the

> ground (snow) under a Redwood tree in our alley, which is also unusual.

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> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2021 04:22:26 +0000

> From: mary hrudkaj <mch1096 at hotmail.com>

> To: "tweeters at u.washington.edu" <tweeters at u.washington.edu>, Gary

> Bletsch <garybletsch at protonmail.com>

> Subject: Re: [Tweeters] odd finch behaviour during snow; silly

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> Several years ago I had an over wintering flock of over 200 pine siskens here. I too have watched them harass larger birds (in this case red crossbills) to make them drop seed. In this case it was sunflower seeds in the hull. Several siskens caught on quick and one got to the point of actually stealing opened seed from the crossbill's beak. Timing had to be crucial having to wait until the sunflower seed was mostly or fully opened so the sisken didn't have to do any work to get food other than harassing the crossbills.

>

> Birds never cease to amaze me. They even have me well trained to shovel the deck and ground feeding area several times during our 8 inch snowfall today.

>

> Mary Hrudkaj

> Belfair/Tahuya

>

> ________________________________

> From: Tweeters <tweeters-bounces at mailman11.u.washington.edu> on behalf of Gary Bletsch <garybletsch at protonmail.com>

> Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2021 5:52 PM

> To: tweeters at u.washington.edu <tweeters at u.washington.edu>

> Subject: [Tweeters] odd finch behaviour during snow; silly hummingbirds also

>

> Dear Tweeters,

>

> Today (Boxing Day) we have over a foot of snow here in the Lyman-Hamilton area. The past two days, my feeders have been swarming with a far larger contingent of birds than we have had in a long time, probably years. Luckily for my dwindling supply of birdseed, the usual horde of Red-winged Blackbirds has thinned. Yesterday at dusk, as the snow flew and visibility dropped to a hundred meters or so, I heard Snow Geese calling overhead. Their name would make one think that they would be happy in the environment here, but I don't believe so--there is very little exposed vegetation for them to eat up here right now.

>

> All day, I kept seeing a strange behaviour from Pine Siskins, of which we had between 70 and 100 visiting the feeders. As the birds foraged on the snowy ground below the feeders, a siskin would repeatedly approach a male Purple Finch and peck at its bill. It almost seemed to me that the siskin was trying to grab some seed out of the Purple Finch's bill. I could not tell if it was the same siskin or the same Purple Finch each time. The Purple Finch would meekly withdraw each time, seemingly cowed by the upstart little siskin.

>

> We had up to 16 Anna's Hummingbirds here as late as the 27th November, but the numbers of hummingbirds began to drop soon after that. Today we had two [2], count them, two Anna's Hummingbirds! I had not seen more than a single hummer here since the eighth instant.

>

> However, I still cannot figure out how these birds survive, judging by their silly behaviour. We have three hummingbird feeders. I keep them full of my special mixture, 50% glycerin, 10% sugar, and a dash of moldy honey...just kidding. It is actually one third sugar and two thirds hot water. Anyway, during these rare cold snaps, I do the labor-intensive rotation method, keeping one inside and two outside. In weather such as we have the last two days had, there is always a nice, warm, thawed hummingbird feeder outside, and a nearly frozen or totally frozen one--plus one warming on the kitchen table. Which feeder do the hummingbirds visit most often? They visit the one that is frozen or close to it! What is up with that?

>

> Yours truly,

>

> Gary Bletsch

>

>

>

>

>

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> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2021 08:39:08 -0800

> From: Elizabeth Fuchs <elizabeth.jean.fuchs at gmail.com>

> To: tweeters at u.washington.edu

> Subject: [Tweeters] Pigeons

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> Does anyone have sources for pigeon determent from a strip mall roof?

> Thank you--

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> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2021 08:56:27 -0800

> From: Dennis Paulson <dennispaulson at comcast.net>

> To: TWEETERS tweeters <tweeters at u.washington.edu>

> Subject: [Tweeters] birds in the yared

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> Seeing these posts on birds in people?s yards, I thought it was worth adding more, as I think now is the time to see just what birds you have around your yard. We live in a wooded part of northeast Seattle above the Thornton Creek ravine. We have three glass-fronted seed feeders, two tube feeders, two suet cages, one tree branch with depressions for bark butter, and four hummingbird feeders. And we are sprinkling seeds everywhere, including the window ledge outside my office, which gets quite a variety of species.

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> We knew we had Townsend?s Warblers, but now we know for sure we have at least three, a male and two females that we?ve seen at the same time. Maybe more? And an (Audubon?s) Yellow-rumped Warbler that has little tiffs with the Townsend?s over the suet. At least two Bewick?s Wrens, sometimes part of the fray.

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> Three White-throated Sparrows for sure, including a tan-striped.

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> At least 3 or 4 Song Sparrows, same with Spotted Towhees. We had a Fox Sparrow before the snow, but we haven?t seen it since.

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> An innumerable collection of Dark-eyed Juncos, certainly 25+, including one fine male Slate-colored. Occasionally 15 or so Bushtits come by and hog the suet feeders for a short while. Up to six Pine Siskins but only intermittently, and we haven?t seen one snatch a seed out of anyone else?s bill.

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> At least three Anna?s Hummingbirds, a male feisty as ever and chasing the other two around, but sometimes he allows one to feed on the next feeder over. A former mate? We are swapping hummer feeders inside and out during the day, also suet, which can freeze at these temperatures.

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> At least three Northern Flickers seen at once repeatedly and one Downy Woodpecker. At least two Steller?s Jays. One or more Red-breasted Nuthatches, and both Black-capped and Chestnut-backed Chickadees coming and going that can?t be counted. The Chestnut-backed favor suet, while the Black-capped favor seeds, but there is overlap.

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> I?ve seen a male Varied Thrush and a male American Robin, both here apparently for the last berries of the season.

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> We had an even dozen Band-tailed Pigeons before the snow, haven?t seen them since either.

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> Fortunately no hawks or cats so far.

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> Dennis Paulson

> Seattle

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>> On Dec 26, 2021, at 8:22 PM, mary hrudkaj <mch1096 at hotmail.com> wrote:

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>> Several years ago I had an over wintering flock of over 200 pine siskens here. I too have watched them harass larger birds (in this case red crossbills) to make them drop seed. In this case it was sunflower seeds in the hull. Several siskens caught on quick and one got to the point of actually stealing opened seed from the crossbill's beak. Timing had to be crucial having to wait until the sunflower seed was mostly or fully opened so the sisken didn't have to do any work to get food other than harassing the crossbills.

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>> Birds never cease to amaze me. They even have me well trained to shovel the deck and ground feeding area several times during our 8 inch snowfall today.

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>> Mary Hrudkaj

>> Belfair/Tahuya

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> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2021 10:33:36 -0800

> From: Dennis Paulson <dennispaulson at comcast.net>

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> Hello again.

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> Coming regularly to our feeders we also have a pair of House Finches, which I forgot to list earlier. And wouldn?t you know it, the ?missing? Fox Sparrow and a couple of Band-tailed Pigeons showed up soon after I posted my first message.

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> Dennis Paulson

> Seattle

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> Enjoying the diversity of birds feeding in snow - Song?sparrows, fox sparrows, golden crowned sparrows, black capped chickadees, Anna's hummingbirds, juncos, flickers, a starling just showed up, bewicks?wrens, spotted towhees and bushy it's. ?Suddenly a bit of red appeared in the snow, a single house finch. ?

> ?

> Realized I haven't seen any house finches in the past day or so. ?Is anyone else miss missing house finches?

> ?

> Cheers,

> AKopitoV

> Seattle, Wa

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> Your missing House Finches are all at my house! I?ve been actively feeding the birds through our Whatcom windstorm which thankfully has calmed down. Overall the diversity is lower than usual: about a hundred juncos, a half dozen towhees and Fox Sparrows, a couple White-crowns and Songs, and a surprisingly large number of House Finches - about 40. On the suet: both chickadees, flickers, and a male Downy.

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> Most cold snaps I also have quite a few Purple Finches and often a White-throated - one winter I had three! I?m also missing the regular Golden-crowns, Steller?s Jays, and Bushtits.

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> In Everson,

> Stephen Chase

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>> On Dec 27, 2021, at 10:55 AM, AMK17 <amk17 at earthlink.net> wrote:

>> ?Enjoying the diversity of birds feeding in snow - Song sparrows, fox sparrows, golden crowned sparrows, black capped chickadees, Anna's hummingbirds, juncos, flickers, a starling just showed up, bewicks wrens, spotted towhees and bushy it's. Suddenly a bit of red appeared in the snow, a single house finch.

>>

>> Realized I haven't seen any house finches in the past day or so. Is anyone else miss missing house finches?

>>

>> Cheers,

>> AKopitoV

>> Seattle, Wa

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> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2021 11:31:45 -0800

> From: Mike Wagenbach <wagen at uw.edu>

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> Subject: [Tweeters] Twisted Bushtits

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> As I was carrying out a warmed hummingbird feeder to swap for the one that

> was about to freeze, the twice-hourly swarm of bushtits showed up on the

> suet and peanut feeders, so I stood 2-3 feet away to watch them for a

> couple of minutes. I realized something I'd never noticed before: many of

> the Bushtits had curved tail feathers. Some were perfectly straight, but

> several others had a fairly obvious bend to the right, and at least one had

> a slight bend to the left. I suppose these warps get into the feathers

> when they are crowded into a roost?

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> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2021 11:37:56 -0800

> From: Cromaat C <cromaat93 at gmail.com>

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> Subject: [Tweeters] hummingbirds in the snow

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> I live at the top of Queen Anne Hill and was going to change out feeders

> yesterday and today; however, no hummingbirds. I usually have several but

> since the snow and low temperatures no hummingbirds.

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> I think maybe they're in torpor. Or is there another reason?

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> When will they come back? At what temperatures will they start to be more

> active so I can be sure to have food out for them.

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> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2021 11:41:04 -0800

> From: Jill Freidberg <jill.freidberg at gmail.com>

> To: Cromaat C <cromaat93 at gmail.com>

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> The hummers will come out of their torpor around 5:30-6:00am. If the feeders are not there, or are frozen, they will try to find another food source, but if they can?t find one, they may die, especially with temps as low as they?ve been. So if your feeders have been frozen, or absent, first thing in the morning, either your hummers went elsewhere or didn?t make it.

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> Jill

>> On Dec 27, 2021, at 11:37 AM, Cromaat C <cromaat93 at gmail.com> wrote:

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>>

>> I live at the top of Queen Anne Hill and was going to change out feeders yesterday and today; however, no hummingbirds. I usually have several but since the snow and low temperatures no hummingbirds.

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>> I think maybe they're in torpor. Or is there another reason?

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>> When will they come back? At what temperatures will they start to be more active so I can be sure to have food out for them.

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> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2021 11:54:15 -0800 (PST)

> From: THOMAS BENEDICT <benedict.t at comcast.net>

> To: Cromaat C <cromaat93 at gmail.com>, tweeters at u.washington.edu

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> Keep putting out fresh/thawed nectar. Mine were waiting this morning at first light. And when I bring the feeders in to warm they buzz around the window until I put them back out.

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> They can't go very long without feeding, so they hopefully found another source when you're wasn't available. If those individuals have survived they will likely come a back to your feeder.

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> Tom Benedict

> Seahurst, WA

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>> On 12/27/2021 11:37 AM Cromaat C <cromaat93 at gmail.com> wrote:

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>>

>>

>> I live at the top of Queen Anne Hill and was going to change out feeders yesterday and today; however, no hummingbirds. I usually have several but since the snow and low temperatures no hummingbirds.

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>> I think maybe they're in torpor. Or is there another reason?

>>

>> When will they come back? At what temperatures will they start to be more active so I can be sure to have food out for them.

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