Subject: [Tweeters] eBird vs tweeters
Date: Wed Mar 17 19:42:45 PDT 2021
From: Doug Santoni - dougsantoni at gmail.com

Tweeters -; I would also like to weigh in here, specifically with the benefits in timeliness when it comes to Tweeters versus e-Bird. While I am not a technology expert, I learned a lot when I missed the Ross' Gull about a year and a half ago, despite the fact that it showed up within easy walking distance of my house. (It was at East Montlake Park in Seattle.)

E-bird is not a real-time reporting mechanism. Reports can be delayed for an hour or considerably more. Had I been successfully subscribed to Tweeters in December of 2019, I'd have probably seen the Ross' Gull before it got eaten by a Bald Eagle. Also, e-bird does not suppress "dead bird" sightings, so as if to add insult to injury, for about five days following the sad demise of the Ross' Gull, I kept getting e-bird reports of the deceased bird. I actually spoke to the e-bird people in Ithaca, NY, and this is apparently how the system works.

I am a supporter of the Cornell Lab of Ornithology, but I did want to pass along these experiences. Both e-Bird and Tweeters are highly valuable, but when timeliness is imperative, you may want to make sure you're looking at Tweeters!!

Doug Santoni
Seattle




> On Mar 17, 2021, at 5:40 PM, Louise Rutter <louise.rutter at eelpi.gotdns.org> wrote:

>

> Agreed. It's not uncommon recently for the first I hear of a bird to be a post saying, 'This bird continues at the same spot as the last two days'. Or more sadly, 'We looked for the bird reported yesterday this morning and didn't find it.'

>

> If people put the word out in several forms of media, it's more likely people will get to see it before it moves on.

>

> Louise Rutter

> Kirkland

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> From: Tweeters <tweeters-bounces at mailman11.u.washington.edu <mailto:tweeters-bounces at mailman11.u.washington.edu>> On Behalf Of sherryandangus

> Sent: 17 March 2021 16:52

> To: janine at northbeachlandscapes.com <mailto:janine at northbeachlandscapes.com>; 'Dennis Paulson' <dennispaulson at comcast.net <mailto:dennispaulson at comcast.net>>; 'TWEETERS tweeters' <tweeters at u.washington.edu <mailto:tweeters at u.washington.edu>>

> Subject: Re: [Tweeters] eBird vs tweeters

>

> Thank you for bring this up. I have been on Tweeters since 2001 when we moved to Sequim from Atlanta. I have the sense that over that time, I have seen fewer rare birds noted on Tweeters and personally, I have been a little slow getting up to speed on eBird. As a result, I've missed some rarities. So, ya'll, please post on both. Oh well, off to see the Inca Tern on Hawaii next week (hopefully, it sticks around).

> Cheers,

> Sherry Anderson

> Sequim and Port Angeles

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> Sent from my Galaxy Tab A

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> -------- Original message --------

> From: janine at northbeachlandscapes.com <mailto:janine at northbeachlandscapes.com>

> Date: 3/17/21 4:17 PM (GMT-08:00)

> To: 'Dennis Paulson' <dennispaulson at comcast.net <mailto:dennispaulson at comcast.net>>, 'TWEETERS tweeters' <tweeters at u.washington.edu <mailto:tweeters at u.washington.edu>>

> Subject: Re: [Tweeters] eBird vs tweeters

>

> Much appreciated. My house borders Fort Worden State Park, but I didn't know about the kittiwake until your posting, and now many others have seen it as well.

>

> Janine Anderson

> janine at northbeachlandscapes.com <mailto:janine at northbeachlandscapes.com>

> Port Townsend, WA

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>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Tweeters <tweeters-bounces at mailman11.u.washington.edu <mailto:tweeters-bounces at mailman11.u.washington.edu>> On Behalf Of Dennis Paulson

> Sent: March 17, 2021 2:55 PM

> To: TWEETERS tweeters <tweeters at u.washington.edu <mailto:tweeters at u.washington.edu>>

> Subject: [Tweeters] eBird vs tweeters

>

> Hello, tweets.

>

> I'm amazed by the number of people who have written me and thanked me for posting about the Black-legged Kittiwake in Port Townsend. I looked on eBird and discovered that a number of people had seen the bird earlier in March, but apparently didn't post it on tweeters. That sparked a thought.

>

> Please remember that posting a rarity or sem-rarity, in other words a bird that others would very much like to see, on eBird doesn't mean that you're sharing it with your local birding community. Lots of people aren't on eBird.

>

> Thanks.

>

> Dennis Paulson

> Seattle

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