PS My Peep Photo was taken in Fall about 1985, scanned here from a slide.
On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 10:41 AM Robert O'Brien <
baro at pdx.edu> wrote:
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You learn something every day! Decades ago photographed a small peep that
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I tried for decades to make into a Little Stint. Photos taken near Astoria.
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Noone could say anything for sure. Eventually I accepted it as a very
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petite male western. Hence my 'Most Wanted' for this stint. But, for old
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times sake I just Googled the comparison and came up with this 'cool' ID
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feature.
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https://blog.aba.org/2017/11/open-mic-a-new-field-mark-for-differentiating-stints-and-peeps.html
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Now, in one of the Stint photos you can barely make out the 'Gape Notch'
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(I'd never heard this term before). A more horizontal photo would have
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been better, but I believe it is visible as it is.
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Then click to the next eBird photo (Western Sandpiper) with the little
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arrow to the right. No Notch on the Western.
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I'm hardly an expert as I just discovered this. I would have helped a lot
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with my long ago photo that is here:
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http://www2.rdrop.com/users/green/Stint%3f/LIST02.JPG
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Note No Notch.
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Love to hear from Dennis Paulson on this whole subject. I'm sure these
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details were not known when he wrote his famous book so long ago.
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Bob OBrien Portland
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On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 10:29 AM Robert O'Brien <baro at pdx.edu> wrote:
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Hi Steve-
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?The bird to the left of the Stint in the eBird photos is a Least
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Sandpiper.? Note the yellow legs.Feet especially
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Bob OBrien
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On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 7:23 AM Steve Hampton <stevechampton at gmail.com>
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wrote:
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Bob,
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Thanks for engaging me. I'm a bit confused about what you said about leg
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color in the photos, which you said appeared yellow in the Least photo and
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dark in the stint photos. But there are no photos of Least Sandpiper; there
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are just two photos of the presumed stint. To me, the legs have a hint of
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olive, which means they are probably yellow, just in shadow or with mud. My
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understanding is that Little Stint legs should be jet black, blacker than
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Western.
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Regarding plumage, I pulled out Veit and Jonsson (1987) from *American
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Birds, *which has excellent illustrations and discussion. The tertials
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and scapulars on both species (in alternate plumage) can be nearly
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identical. To me, the extensive streaking on the breast sides and the tail
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protruding beyond the wings suggest Least Sandpiper, as does the overall
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structure.
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Again, the pics are here: https://ebird.org/checklist/S107940245
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I'm hoping others will weigh in.
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thanks,
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On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 11:37 PM Robert O'Brien <baro at pdx.edu> wrote:
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One giveaway is the legs. Least Sandpiper has yellow legs, visible in
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the photo. The Little Stint clearly has dark legs also visible in the
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excellent photos.
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I'd worry more about Western Sandpiper, which is the next excellent
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photo. There are obvious differences there but the legs don't help.
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Bob OBrien Portland
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PS Can anyone predict what time of day (tidewise?) would be best
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for chasing tomorrow, Tuesday? I guess it was seen around 9-10AM
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Saturday. Little Stint is my Most Wanted Stint.................
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On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 10:42 PM Steve Hampton <stevechampton at gmail.com>
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wrote:
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I've only seen Little Stint a few times, so I'm interested in more
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discussion of this bird. The bill shape and overall posture seem identical
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to Least Sandpiper to me. Plumage-wise, is the strong streaking on the
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sides of the breast possible on Little Stint? I'm interested in an
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explanation why this is not a bright adult Least Sandpiper and what the key
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marks are.
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thanks,
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On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 6:58 PM dan&erika <danerika at gmail.com> wrote:
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Hi Tweets--
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First let me apologize for the delay in my posting this record.
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Yesterday, 25 April 2022, I photographed a bird at the Billy Frank Jr
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National Wildlife Refuge. It was on the south side of the very beginning of
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the estuary boardwalk. Two birds are in the image, one clearly a Least
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Sandpiper. It slowly occurred to me that the other, brighter bird is a
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Little Stint. I shared the photo with Dennis Paulson, who concurs with my
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identification.
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Two photos are included in the following eBird checklist:
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https://ebird.org/checklist/S107940245.
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Note apparent black legs, white-tipped wing coverts, and rusty
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breast, and note the black streaks against a pale chestnut wash on the
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sides of the breast and the chestnut color of the tertials.
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A refuge volunteer informed us that the shorebirds had been absent on
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Saturday the 24th, but that a large fallout of shorebirds occurred on
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Saturday night. I took the photos in eBird only because the birds presented
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a pretty composition.
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Dan
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--
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Dan or Erika Tallman
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Olympia, Washington
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danerika at gmail.com
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".... the best shod travel with wet feet...Beware of all enterprises
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that require new clothes ...."-;H. D. Thoreau
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Port Townsend, WA (qatáy)
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