My opinion is that it's very unlikely that an IBWO will be found in the wild. I'm more interested in the efforts being made to "resurrect" extinct species using DNA and cloning. That seems more likely, although, if it ever works, it will be some decades before we see a living Woolly Mammoth or Passenger Pigeon.
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From: Daniel Estabrooks <daniel.estabrooks at warner.edu>
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Date: August 14, 2022 at 6:41:38 PM PDT
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To: Mark Kluth <bt.gull at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Tweeters] Do videos show ivory-billed woodpecker, or is it extinct?
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My first question is, why does anyone care what the bird's "official" status with USFWS is? I don't see how it makes any practical difference.
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I want to see more definitive evidence before I believe that the Ivory-bill is still with us, but the behavior of some of the people who are trying to debunk it is asinine and largely ego-driven. I made a comment on Facebook a few months ago that I think some people really want the bird to be extinct just to make a point, and I got blasted by a guy for whom it apparently touched a nerve - probably because he's one of them!
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On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 4:42 PM Mark Kluth <bt.gull at gmail.com <mailto:bt.gull at gmail.com>> wrote:
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Amusing posts.
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From: Jeff Gilligan <jeffgilligan10 at gmail.com <mailto:jeffgilligan10 at gmail.com>>
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Date: August 13, 2022 at 11:12:45 PM PDT
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To: Tom Benedict <benedict.t at comcast.net <mailto:benedict.t at comcast.net>>
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Cc: tweeters <tweeters at u.washington.edu <mailto:tweeters at u.washington.edu>>
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Subject: Re: [Tweeters] Do videos show ivory-billed woodpecker, or is it extinct?
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The guy suggesting it "could be anything" and that "there are more convincing photos of a Sasquatch" really should be ignored based on those inane comments alone.
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The video of a bird flying to and landing on tree that was shot from above is very intriguing. The large amount of white on the upper wings certainly rules out Wood Duck. If I had to bet, I would think the video is of a Red-headed Woodpecker though. I assume that the size of the bird in comparison to the limb it landed on could be definitive.
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On Aug 13, 2022, at 10:41 PM, Tom Benedict <benedict.t at comcast.net <mailto:benedict.t at comcast.net>> wrote:
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Evidently there are still folks out there looking for the Ivory-billed Woodpecker.
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https://apnews.com/article/science-animals-wildlife-north-america-birds-de73ecb49a997b96201d8614d38f6f49 <https://apnews.com/article/science-animals-wildlife-north-america-birds-de73ecb49a997b96201d8614d38f6f49>
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Millions of sharp and in focus photos of every other bird species on earth, but all these IBWO "evidence" photos are grainy and low res.
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I guess there's a fast approaching deadline for official declaration from the US Fish and Wildlife Service to declare IBWO extinct, so these reports are showing up. We can probably expect a few more.
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