Subject: [Tweeters] Fwd: Do videos show ivory-billed woodpecker, or is it extinct?
Date: Mon Aug 15 12:25:34 PDT 2022
From: LMarkoff - canyoneagle at mycci.net

I question the motivation of the people behind the drive to officially declare the Ivory-billed WP extinct. If the bird is officially extinct, will that open up more land for development, logging, etc.? Just wondering.



Lori Markoff



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From: Daniel Estabrooks <daniel.estabrooks at warner.edu <mailto:daniel.estabrooks at warner.edu> >
Date: August 14, 2022 at 6:41:38 PM PDT
To: Mark Kluth <bt.gull at gmail.com <mailto:bt.gull at gmail.com> >
Subject: Re: [Tweeters] Do videos show ivory-billed woodpecker, or is it extinct?



My first question is, why does anyone care what the bird's "official" status with USFWS is? I don't see how it makes any practical difference.



I want to see more definitive evidence before I believe that the Ivory-bill is still with us, but the behavior of some of the people who are trying to debunk it is asinine and largely ego-driven. I made a comment on Facebook a few months ago that I think some people really want the bird to be extinct just to make a point, and I got blasted by a guy for whom it apparently touched a nerve - probably because he's one of them!





Daniel Estabrooks
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