Subject: [Tweeters] Mandarin Duck - Please Go Away
Date: Sat Feb 19 13:54:56 PST 2022
From: Bruce Barrett - coddler at gmail.com

True.
This is why the "Top eBirders" lists are next to useless for any list
serious comparisons, as we all use different criteria for including a
sighting on an eBird list.
I hear rumours that eBird will soon offer an option to include, or not
include, a listing on your eBird list, with guidelines, but still based on
what each of us think is countable.
This should at least remove some of the Red Junglefowl and Ostriches -
although some may still choose to include them!
However, until there is some sort of forced alignment with the ABA list and
"official" countable introduced populations the problem will remain.
One may or may not agree with the ABA list or their inclusion criteria, but
at least when the ABA was formed (in 1969) one of its specific goals was to
define "countable" and thus level the list comparison playing field.

Bruce Barrett
San Jose, CA

On Sat, Feb 19, 2022 at 1:36 PM HAL MICHAEL <ucd880 at comcast.net> wrote:


> Ebird allows you to put whatever you want on your list. I have reported

> Barnacle Goose, for example. It's provenance is debated so it is not

> reported publicly but it is on my personal list as a "possible escapee".

>

> same with Red Junglefowl (domestic). I am sure they are establishing in

> many places but "countable" in few.

>

> Hal Michael

> Board of Directors, Ecologists Without Borders <http://ecowb.org/>

> Olympia WA

> 360-459-4005

> 360-791-7702 (C)

> ucd880 at comcast.net

>

>

> On 02/19/2022 12:09 PM Molly Cvetovac <mollycvetovac at gmail.com> wrote:

>

>

> I have not put it on my checklists for that reason, although it is kind of

> nice to record everything you see, escaped or otherwise. Thinking of

> keeping an off eBird list for that purpose.

>

> My question is though, how do I sign up for alerts about a specific

> species? I have been unable to figure this out.

>

> On Sat, Feb 19, 2022 at 11:55 AM HAL MICHAEL <ucd880 at comcast.net> wrote:

>

> It is established in at least California. I haven't searched for it but

> how sure are folks that it is an escapee and not a wanderer from down

> South?

>

>

>

> Hal Michael

> Board of Directors,Ecologists Without Borders (http://ecowb.org/)

> Olympia WA

> 360-459-4005

> 360-791-7702 (C)

> ucd880 at comcast.net

>

> > On 02/19/2022 11:44 AM Carol Riddell <cariddellwa at gmail.com> wrote:

> >

> >

> > If the Seattle Times Rant and Rave column were to come to Tweeters, my

> rant would be the Mandarin Duck. It's an escaped bird that doesn't belong

> in eBird any more than back yard chicken do. Since I subscribe to life bird

> alerts for King County, I have spent a year deleting email alerts about

> this escaped duck. It isn't ABA countable so I'm not sure why so many

> people feel a need to put it in their eBird checklists. Does anyone know if

> there is a way to turn off eBird alerts for a specific species? There

> probably isn't but thought I'd ask in case I have missed a toggle switch

> somewhere. Thanks.

> >

> > Carol Riddell

> > Edmonds, WA

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